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Title: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 06, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
Been working on this for several weeks when I get some spare time. Pretty cool you can really visualize where things are going to be. I'll probably start finalizing dimensions and materials in the upcoming months and finish it in september. This might be overkill but it makes sense to me

(http://i.imgur.com/4vOyPyN.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KgnCDZX.png)

If anyone else uses sketchup, I can provide the frame which is more or so an MC9.


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Dave5Cs on May 06, 2013, 07:05:12 PM
Thats pretty neat. I have used it a few times to design some buildings to see what could be done.

Dave5Cs


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: NonHippieBus on May 06, 2013, 07:33:43 PM
I've used www.floorplanner.com (http://www.floorplanner.com)

If you don't have any Autocad skills its a nice visualization tool


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: OneLapper on May 06, 2013, 07:37:05 PM

If anyone else uses sketchup, I can provide the frame which is more or so an MC9.

I'd be interested in that file.  I have used Sketchup, it's neat.


Title: Re: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Seangie on May 06, 2013, 08:07:52 PM
I used sketchup to design layouts and different areas of my bus.  It really helps in planning and makes the execution go much smoother as you figure out a lot of the things before you get to them.  These are excellent drawings.  Much better than what I did.  It also gives wifey a better idea of what you are talking about ;)

-Sean

PS - a link to a previous post showing sketchup drawings that were quickly done (within a few hours) http://www.BusConversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24490.msg268395.msg#268395 (http://www.BusConversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24490.msg268395.msg#268395)

Blog post with sketchup -http://www.herdofturtles.org/2012/02/21/step-2-the-bedroom/ (http://www.herdofturtles.org/2012/02/21/step-2-the-bedroom/)

 www.herdofturtles.org  (http://www.herdofturtles.org)
1984 Eagle Model 10S


Title: Re: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 06, 2013, 08:27:30 PM
I used sketchup to design layouts and different areas of my bus.  It really helps in planning and makes the execution go much smoother as you figure out a lot of the things before you get to them.  These are excellent drawings.  Much better than what I did.  It also gives wifey a better idea of what you are talking about ;)

-Sean

PS - a link to a previous post showing sketchup drawings that were quickly done (within a few hours) http://www.BusConversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24490.msg268395.msg#268395 ([url]http://http://www.BusConversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=24490.msg268395.msg#268395[/url])

Blog post with sketchup -http://www.herdofturtles.org/2012/02/21/step-2-the-bedroom/ ([url]http://http://www.herdofturtles.org/2012/02/21/step-2-the-bedroom/[/url])

 [url=http://www.herdofturtles.org]www.herdofturtles.org ([url]http://http://www.herdofturtles.org[/url]) [/URL]
1984 Eagle Model 10S


I love the sketch look! I need to start adding color/textures to get a better idea.


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: NEO/Russ on May 07, 2013, 10:55:10 AM
Pre-retirement I was head of one of the Brunswick Corp. boat groups.  One of our activities was for engineering staff to get together and see what other teams were doing.  We were a small group designing bass boats so while we used CAD it wasn't as integrated into our work as the teams at Sea Ray or Bayliner.  I remember going to their operations and seeing how they did interiors on yachts.  Yes, like you they used CAD, but then to be sure the proportions were correct and really fit the human needs they mocked up the entire interiors in cardboard.  That made things change that looked good in CAD, but when you made them things were dark, you bumped elbows, the flow wasn't what you expected, etc.  Do it your way, but I wanted to pass along what has been done before in groups that had dozens of CAD stations and could have laid out the entire boat and never done a mock-up, but learned the hard way that it didn't always work the way you expected.

I moved from my bus project to a HDT hauling a fifth wheel, but for the redesign of the truck cab I cut up a lot of boxes so that I made sure that things worked, and I changed things.

Russ


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: joel_newton on May 07, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
I've used Adobe Illustrator and a few other dedicated architectural CAD programs.  I like SketchUP.  You can do a lot of neat things easily and quickly.  However - sometimes - you go to do something you think should be really easy and it isn't!  Perhaps because I'm "old school" it seemed to have a bit of a learning curve.

I did the floor plan for my bus and overall the results were great.  Can't beat the price!!!


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 07, 2013, 05:45:01 PM
I'd be interested in that file.  I have used Sketchup, it's neat.


I've uploaded it to the models section

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=13f70ebc4e721407f532472d72e6e4cc (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=13f70ebc4e721407f532472d72e6e4cc)


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 07, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
Pre-retirement I was head of one of the Brunswick Corp. boat groups.  One of our activities was for engineering staff to get together and see what other teams were doing.  We were a small group designing bass boats so while we used CAD it wasn't as integrated into our work as the teams at Sea Ray or Bayliner.  I remember going to their operations and seeing how they did interiors on yachts.  Yes, like you they used CAD, but then to be sure the proportions were correct and really fit the human needs they mocked up the entire interiors in cardboard.  That made things change that looked good in CAD, but when you made them things were dark, you bumped elbows, the flow wasn't what you expected, etc.  Do it your way, but I wanted to pass along what has been done before in groups that had dozens of CAD stations and could have laid out the entire boat and never done a mock-up, but learned the hard way that it didn't always work the way you expected.

I moved from my bus project to a HDT hauling a fifth wheel, but for the redesign of the truck cab I cut up a lot of boxes so that I made sure that things worked, and I changed things.

Russ

Excellent point. Kind of one of those things where it looks great 'on paper' but not so great in real life. I will still be masking off and as you said, using cut up boxes to give a better idea of what it will look like. Invite some friends over to have a drink in the 'completed' bus.


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: OneLapper on May 07, 2013, 06:37:31 PM
I've uploaded it to the models section

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=13f70ebc4e721407f532472d72e6e4cc ([url]http://http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=13f70ebc4e721407f532472d72e6e4cc[/url])


Thank you!


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: TomsToy on May 07, 2013, 06:55:43 PM
Jon, did you get my file?
TomsToy


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 07, 2013, 07:03:19 PM
Jon, did you get my file?
TomsToy

I was just poking through it! Love the attention to detail, spare tire, basement plumbing.

It acts kinda crazy for some reason...


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 15, 2013, 06:58:20 AM
Little update

(http://i.imgur.com/tYFHZVC.jpg)

Incase anyone is wondering what's between the kitchen and sofa... it's a guitar stand. Must have when you spend months on the road.


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: TomC on May 15, 2013, 07:25:25 AM
Always looks good on paper. But any can tell you, there is always something in the way, or something has to be modified that the interior plan will morf between initial drawing and what results at the end. I use the old fashion drafting table, drafting machine, pencil and eraser. Good Luck, TomC


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on May 15, 2013, 01:15:31 PM
    This stuff looks so good.  I've downloaded the SketchUp software and after hours of trying, I can't get it to draw a straight line.  I'll keep trying but I'm not holding my breath.


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Jnbroadbent on May 15, 2013, 04:59:19 PM
    This stuff looks so good.  I've downloaded the SketchUp software and after hours of trying, I can't get it to draw a straight line.  I'll keep trying but I'm not holding my breath.

It made no sense to me but i was determined to finally get a grasp of it. Watched some youtube vids, when I encountered problems I googled it which typically brought me to the sketchup help site.

To me when I realized it was perspective it made more sense. Like if you wanted to draw a line up, look at it from the side rather then some weird skewed/cock-eyed perspective and it will snap to the axis you want. (b/g/r for xyz)


Title: Re: Anyone use any CAD for interior design? (or in my case, google sketch up)
Post by: Oonrahnjay on May 17, 2013, 09:54:03 AM
It made no sense to me but i was determined to finally get a grasp of it. Watched some youtube vids, when I encountered problems I googled it which typically brought me to the sketchup help site.

To me when I realized it was perspective it made more sense. Like if you wanted to draw a line up, look at it from the side rather then some weird skewed/cock-eyed perspective and it will snap to the axis you want. (b/g/r for xyz)

     I'm going to keep trying; it's not like I have anything filling up my copious free time (I have lots of that, I'm a bus owner)!