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Title: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Jeremy on January 08, 2007, 05:05:28 AM
I just love big buses, and just came across a Dutch website with some good photos I thought I'd share.  I've never seen a 4-axle coach in Britain, but  the European maximum permitted length for an unarticulated vehicle is now 15m (50 feet), so they would be legal. We have a lot of of double-deck coaches here, due I guess to our high fuel prices. British towns are of course famous for double deck buses (ie. of the 'London Bus' type), so I guess bridges etc have been built to accomodate them over the years, so double-deck inter-city coaches don't cause the problems they might in other countries. Anyway, a few pics:

An row of fifty footers:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-Busmodellen-Peru-DD-VP.JPG)

Convertible coach as city-centre tour bus:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-NeoplanTaxiVP.jpg)

An old Setra for BK. Love that glass roof!

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-MijdrechtSlingerland-VP2.JPG)
(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-MijdrechtSlingerland-VP1.JPG)

Gerry Anderson designs a motorhome for Lady Penelope:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-Marcels-Starliner-VP.jpg)

Shortwheelbase:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/VerkorteTouringcarVP.jpg)

Ouch:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/DubbeldekkerMMTravel-brand-VP.jpg)

Neoplan Megaliner:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-Neoplan-Megaliner-VP.jpg)

Nice styling, horrible paint:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-Gordijnbus-VP.jpg)

Love those mirrors!:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-Dubbeldekker-Spiegels-Gordijnen-VP.jpg)

Whoops:

(http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-BusvanBoot-VP.jpg)

And finally, the real Biggest Bus in the World (I think) - the Neoplan Jumbocruiser - 18m (60 feet), 144 passengers, V12 Mercedes engine. The've been building these since 1976 in various configurations (note different axle layouts etc), but it's now been replaced by the non-articulated Megaliner. The white one at the bottom has actually just been rebuilt by a British operator using all the latest Neoplan panels to look like a brand new 2007 bus, but is actually a few years old:

(http://jumbocruiser.com/imgs/jumbocoach/best_jumbo.jpg)

(http://www.konrad-auwaerter.de/datenbank/bilder/normal/0094.jpg)

(http://jumbocruiser.com/Images/mvc-004f.jpg)

For a better photo of this last bus, go this this page: (image is too big to appear in post)

http://lh4.google.com/image/jumbocruiser/RUJnfFPpABI/AAAAAAAAACQ/suNPhXOu3Bk/IMG_0441.JPG


Jeremy


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Chaz on January 08, 2007, 06:17:41 AM
Oh Man................. Thanx a BUNCH!!!!!!!!!!! I love the shots!! And the creativity!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are some pretty cool lookin buses out there!!  Thanx!

   Feelin creative,
     Chaz


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on January 08, 2007, 07:27:37 AM
Jeremy,

Very Kool..

The first pic up top are scale models.. or that women is a 20ft tall. Lol...

Nick-


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Jeremy on January 08, 2007, 07:34:32 AM

The first pic up top are scale models.. or that women is a 20ft tall. Lol...

Nick-

Yes, you're right - I hadn't noticed that. The caption of the photo might have said that, but I can't read Dutch!

J


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Lee Bradley on January 08, 2007, 10:05:26 AM
Looks like that last Neoplan has a factory hitch receiver; must make for a loooong rig.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: brojcol on January 08, 2007, 12:15:23 PM
I think European style buses are amazing. 


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on January 08, 2007, 12:26:37 PM
Jeremy,

Very Kool..

The first pic up top are scale models.. or that women is a 20ft tall. Lol...

Nick-

Splain to me. I don't get it.
Richard


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: edvanland on January 08, 2007, 02:00:03 PM
Richard, I didn't either.  Look in the upper right hand corner and there is a person leaning against a tree.  The tree is real tall.
ED
MCI 7


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Lee Bradley on January 08, 2007, 03:08:15 PM
The buses are in the foreground and should be much larger than the woman in the background also look at the grass next to the pavement the buses are on.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: brojcol on January 08, 2007, 03:53:10 PM
That's one of them optikal alusions ::)


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on January 08, 2007, 04:39:12 PM
Looks like she is on a hill and the perspective makes her look tall. Cabbage grass in the foreground?
Richard


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: HighTechRedneck on January 08, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
My theory regarding the grass in the foreground:

The camera appears to be about level with the upper windows, almost even with the bus roofs.  My guess is that the ground level where the camera sits is 12-15' higher than the lot where the busses are.  The camera is sitting close to the ground, making the grass blades appear large.

I reserve the right to be profoundly wrong on this, but that is how it looks to me.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: brojcol on January 08, 2007, 07:20:52 PM
This ain't the first time a grassy knoll has caused problems... ;D


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Buffalo SpaceShip on January 08, 2007, 10:42:22 PM
Well, if those busses aren't scale models then the fence behind them would be 100' tall.  Nick is right, the lady is the dead giveway. Anything that far in the background would be much shorter than what's in the foreground due to the laws of perspective... hill or not. Likewise, look at those light poles waaay off in the distance. Move your eye between all of those elements (plus the aforementioned grass) a few times and you'll see that those can't be full-size coaches. They're scale models on a sidewalk, each maybe 2-3' long at the most.

Or were 'ya kiddin'?!  ???

Here's a couple "scale-benders" from my collection:

(http://www.brownland.org/photos/smalltown.jpg)

(http://www.brownland.org/photos/nyc.jpg)

BTW, nice gallery, Jeremy! Ain't it great how we can go "off-thread" in a hurry.  ;D
Brian B.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: captain ron on January 08, 2007, 11:47:59 PM
I would love to have one of those little short buses, kinda reminds me of my school days being the window licker on the short bus.  ;D
Actually they wold make cool looking hot rod buses, put those wide tires on the back they make to eliminate duelies, and jack the rear end up a little higher than the front, custom paint. It would look like one of those Zingers from a long time ago.



Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on January 09, 2007, 05:47:01 AM
Well, if those busses aren't scale models then the fence behind them would be 100' tall. 

Looks like a typical fence surrounding a golf course to me.
Richard


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Green-Hornet on January 09, 2007, 05:49:45 AM
"grassy knolls"..."hi-jacked" threads...what next ;D
It is all a conspiracy I tell you :o


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: phunckie on January 09, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
Well, if those busses aren't scale models then the fence behind them would be 100' tall. 

Looks like a typical fence surrounding a golf course to me.
Richard

However, if you look closely, what's inside the fence appears to be a basketball court, and based on the height of the goals, I would say that those fences are approximately 8 ft high.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Jeremy on January 09, 2007, 04:18:58 PM
Everyone's having such fun speculating about that photograph it seems a shame to give a definitive answer...but here it is anyway. I've just put the caption to the original 'photo into Babelfish, and the (pretty poor!) translation comes out as follows:

Peruvian dubbeldekkers on scale

If Peruvian woman has you it nevertheless but with difficulty with such a man such as Cesar Quesada. What that a time in its knutselschuurtje will spend to build scale models this dubbeldekker.......Je must perhaps even two times to this photograph look at seeing that it does not concern real touringcars, but scale models. Our Peruvian bus friends send regularly photograph of all kinds of splendid touringcars which they have reconstructed exactly or have signed. What an enormously original hobby!
 
I've no idea what Peruvian woman have got to do with anything, but it's good to see that we weren't the only ones who mistook the models as the real thing. Personally I would quite like to own one of the models, never mind the full size bus. Amusing as well that 'coach' in Dutch translates as 'touringcar' - I reckon touringcar is a neat word to use to describe a luxury coach, but unfortunately in the UK a touring car is what we call our version of Nascar racers.
 
If anyone is interested, the site the photos came from is http://www.bus-idee.nl/  There are hundreds of photos on the site which can be seen by going to this page: http://www.bus-idee.nl/Touringcarteam.nl.htm, then using the blue links on the right-hand side of the page

Jeremy


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on January 09, 2007, 04:21:58 PM
Well, they sure fooled me, big time.
Richard


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: brojcol on January 09, 2007, 05:42:54 PM
I broke out in a sweat trying to read the translation...


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: gr8njt on January 09, 2007, 06:19:24 PM
Here's more pics of double deckers:


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: captain ron on January 09, 2007, 06:22:03 PM
European styling is awsome


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: gr8njt on January 09, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
More double deckers to enjoy.
A converted one to a motorhome can offer more floor space than a quad- slideout.
It's amazing how a single axle can carry all the weight.


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Busted Knuckle on January 09, 2007, 06:46:50 PM
An old Setra for BK. Love that glass roof!

([url]http://http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-MijdrechtSlingerland-VP2.JPG[/url])
([url]http://http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-MijdrechtSlingerland-VP1.JPG[/url])
Thanks a million   ! I love it! CHeck out the new S417 they now offer it with a "sky view" ceiling! BK  ;D


Shortwheelbase:

([url]http://http://www.bus-idee.nl/VerkorteTouringcarVP.jpg[/url])
Cool I want 1! That'd be a great grocery getter! LOL ! BK  ;D


Whoops:

([url]http://http://www.bus-idee.nl/TCT-BusvanBoot-VP.jpg[/url])
I'd love to hear about that 1 ! And see a close up of the drivers face sitting out there hanging in mid air! LOL !  BK  ;D


Jeremy


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: Jeremy on January 10, 2007, 01:56:15 AM
More double deckers to enjoy.
A converted one to a motorhome can offer more floor space than a quad- slideout.
It's amazing how a single axle can carry all the weight.

Those are just buses (transits) of course - I expect the static weight is a bit lower than that of a coach with the same number of seats, and I guess the much lower speeds mean much lower dynamic forces on the axles and drivetrain generally. Old double-decker buses are dirt cheap, so there are lots of hippie types living in them (similar I guess to your skoolies). I wouldn't want one as a motorhome myself as the slow speed and rough ride would drive you mad.

Jeremy


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: captain ron on January 10, 2007, 08:31:23 AM
I believe that last picture is on a ferry. probably no brakes set or a movie set. as the bus is way past it's possible balance point  ;D
Just an observation for another controversy


Title: Re: Big Buses and other photos
Post by: TomC on January 10, 2007, 08:37:15 AM
Next time you go to Las Vegas check out the double decker transits on the strip.  Huge radiators with multiple electric fans for the heat. Good Luck, TomC