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 on: August 25, 2014, 09:59:56 PM 
Started by Swadian - Last post by Swadian
Thanks Boomer, appreciate your informative reply. See, that's why I'm really confused about the E and hence why I started this thread on this board in the first place. Now there's really no reason, I guess, why the E is selling for so much these days.

Do you know why exactly the early E's were returned to the factory? Did they ever manage to fix the problems? I know the E was the great big fad back in 1996, then turned into a massive flop by 2004.

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:54:14 PM 
Started by grantgoold - Last post by Jriddle

All right getter done. I used the pump below. It works well for us.


 on: August 25, 2014, 09:22:20 PM 
Started by lvmci - Last post by lvmci
Hi Clifford, the driver on the lz falcon, said it had three vacumn cans and it didnt matter how many times you braked, you would never run out of air pressure, what do you think, tom...

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:15:20 PM 
Started by Charles in SC - Last post by Boomer
You can buy new powder coated wheels for in the 80 buck range (chinese) and Accuride for around 110.00.  I wouldn't waste my money coating wheels that old.  Better yet you can find good used aluminum Alcoa's for around 150.00 and they will balance a lot easier than the steel.

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:13:38 PM 
Started by belfert - Last post by Dave5Cs
400 for 1 light ooch

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:09:27 PM 
Started by Charles in SC - Last post by Boomer
Google or youtube "dustless blasting".

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:04:00 PM 
Started by Swadian - Last post by Boomer
I've always believed that when you buy newer coaches you are buying more than the bus, ie financing, parts availability, service and tech support and resale value. You do your research and you throw in with  the manufacturer that will support you.  When it came time for my company to start buying new buses (1998) we evaluated them all.  MCI, Prevost, Van Hool, even Irazar and the Bluebird distributor even dragged in a new 3 axle coach much to my amusement.  We drove and evaluated the E and D MCI and the XL and H and the T945 which was VanHool's big bus at the time.  We chose Prevost and were NEVER sorry.  The new E turned out to be a disaster and as you know most of the early ones had to be returned to the factory.  I knew the new platform would be problematic and it sure was.  Our next new coach order was three years later for 3 more new ones and we looked very hard at the J model and liked it.  But not enough to sway us away from Prevost (such as disc brakes).  We bought XLII's  that time.  They were cheaper than the J too.  Now, I understand that you are inquiring about the used coach market.  If you are looking at buses with 150K to 200K miles to start out with you better hope they had great maintenance, and better have a spare. A lot of small operators run the hell out of them while in warranty and never put a wrench on them then dump them.  IMHO nobody can beat Prevost tech support.  We actually have had them come into our shop on more than one occasion and replace componants that were way out of warranty for no charge what so ever. An we didn't even have to do the work. As for Van Hool, after 8 years they were worth half as much on the market as the same year Prevost.  I rest my case.  Don't know why folks are asking more for a used E these days especially a '99 'cause in my opinion they are junk.  I have a friend in MN that owns an all MCI fleet and he had an E that was so bad that he had to trade it in on a new J just to get rid of it.  OK, let the flames begin.

 on: August 25, 2014, 09:03:22 PM 
Started by grantgoold - Last post by grantgoold
I have finished the inside of the bus!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin

Now it is time to begin planning the tanks, and pumps.  I am looking at the newest Jabsco Pumps Dual Sensor Max automatic two stage system.  A bit pricey but looks like the way to go to be at the front of the line for awhile.


What say ye?

Thanks in advance!


 on: August 25, 2014, 08:34:11 PM 
Started by wagwar - Last post by Sean
Since someone mentioned me by name, I thought I'd jump in for a minute...

First and foremost, you need to make sure there is no inadvertent ground fault in your system.  Lots of ways to do that, which have been covered here before.

That said, the Trace SW series will trip GFCI outlets all by itself, even with no ground fault.  This is due to a filter capacitor.  I wrote about the solution extensively here:

Once you've ensured there is no real fault, and removed the green strap inside the case (which is NOT a ground/neutral bond and NOT a case ground) that I discussed in that post, you will STILL have a problem from the ground/neutral bonding relay that should have been installed along with the Trace.  I discussed that issue here:

Lastly, even if all the above have been covered, your front-end power management and monitoring may, by itself, trip the GFI.  All I can say here is you can either live with it, or bypass the monitor.  Without seeing a schematic I can't say for sure if this is part of your problem.

Hope that helps.


 on: August 25, 2014, 08:30:35 PM 
Started by Swadian - Last post by luvrbus
The E's are a nice bus I have friend in San Diego that bought a factory shell with slides a few years ago he has been converting

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