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 on: March 16, 2018, 07:23:49 AM 
Started by neoneddy - Last post by neoneddy
Yeah there are a few of us on here. I'm down 65 by PTL tire .

We ought to do a mini meet up sometime.

I'll be outside working on the bus this afternoon and all weekend, like usual.

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 on: March 16, 2018, 06:46:02 AM 
Started by somewhereinusa - Last post by somewhereinusa
So many options out there now, many that didn't exist (or weren't even thought of) when you installed your last one.
I'd suggest doing some research if you haven't shopped for a car stereo since cassettes were used.

So true, I was hoping to narrow my choices a bit from members experiences.

Do you ever listen to books? Pioneer doesn't read the track number when playing. They for some reason look at the date the track was produced. Track 9 might have been produced before track two.  Huh That's ok when the disc number is stated for each track but, some just keep reading and there is no way to tell what chapter you are on. There is an app for Pioneer to produce a playlist to put them in the right order.

 on: March 16, 2018, 06:23:11 AM 
Started by Scott & Heather - Last post by buswarrior
The rule, with few exceptions:

The harnesses were ALL compromised by mechanics.
30 years ago, they pricked wires with probes to solve electrical problems.

It took beatings, and retirements, to make it stop.

Some of these a$$es, and their protegés are STILL out there today, jamming sharpened probes down the back of connectors, or straight into the wires.

Those in the salt find out sooner, the rest find out later...

Re-wiring is going to figure just a prominently as insulating in the lives of busnuts, as the electronic equipped buses end up in every backyard.

Happy coaching!

Happy coaching!

 on: March 16, 2018, 06:20:46 AM 
Started by mikke60 - Last post by luvrbus
All depends how the 6v92 is equipped could be you have a throttle delay that is bad or out of adjustment if the engine is equipped with one or you could have the wrong turbo for the injectors ,it would help if you posted what bus the engine is in too a little more info please 

 on: March 16, 2018, 05:59:16 AM 
Started by richard5933 - Last post by buswarrior
Throw some rugs and forget about it?

Insulation is a false God, to whom too much worship is directed...

How much less headroom in the coach do you want?

Are the doors to the water bay air tight? If so, job done.

For arctic protection, the way to deal with baggage doors is to add framed, removable bulkhead immediately inside the door, to box up the water space inside, and the doors don't figure in to it.

Insulation doesn't heat or cool, BTU do that. You need a winning combination. So...

Cheaper and easier to add some BTU to compensate and move on to the next challenge?

Happy coaching!

 on: March 16, 2018, 05:53:58 AM 
Started by richard5933 - Last post by sledhead
on my M C I    I put 3/4" foam board with the tin foil on each side under the floor with formica spray glue and the tin foil tape to seal ALL the seams ( lots of them ) it did take some time but helped a lot . before I did any work in ALL my bays I did the same thing and added 1/4 " ply on the bay floor  and put the grey boat carpet on every think other then the floor of the water bay . I just used the foam board and 1/4 " ply painted grey but no carpet . as for the bay doors I used rattle can spray foam inside the doors and the 1/4 " tin foil bubble insulation were I could not get any insulation in then used the tin foil tape on all to finish the job . not sure how much it helped but never had a freeze up in the water bay and I have been in really cold weather on some of the drives south ( as low as - 25 f )

on the featherlite they did a good job on all out side walls and ceiling and in the bays  but they only used 1/2 " crappy white foam board on the bay floors with the same boat carpet on a 1/2 " ply over the foam . some things they did are amazing and some are dumb



 on: March 16, 2018, 05:47:27 AM 
Started by richard5933 - Last post by Scott & Heather
You can’t really insulate a fully converted coach floor after the fact as you’re already realizing. Two thoughts:

1. Your electric heater in your uninsulated plumbing bay should suffice. We never insulated either of our buses plumbing bays at all and a small electric heater kept anything from freezing down to -28F so you’re likely ok in that department.

2. Even though you can’t easily insulate your floor at this point, you could install electric floor heat underlayment. They sell rolls of heating grid matting that you can lay down, wire up, and then lay a floating click lock wood or tile floor over. This would be installed in main areas like living room and kitchen hallways and even bathroom floors. But even that requires lifting your carpet to install or adding flooring on top of your existing flooring.

3. Something that can work but may not be cost effective is to insulate your luggage bays and heat them nice and toasty. This warmth will radiate upwards to and thru your flooring and your floors will feel warm. It might be too expensive to heat those bays tho just to have warm floors. I suppose slippers are a cheaper option. Some guys on here have hydronic heated floors and I absolutely envy them to the point of jealousy.

Our first coach was like yours, nothing but plywood on the floor and the floors were always freezing. Our second coach we did it right and spray foam insulated the daylights out of it:

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 on: March 16, 2018, 05:22:25 AM 
Started by roger dolan - Last post by sledhead
I put a kat 300 watt magnetic heater and it works great and is easy to use

here is a 200 watt one



 on: March 16, 2018, 04:55:29 AM 
Started by richard5933 - Last post by richard5933
While running a bunch of new wiring over the past few weeks, I discovered that the only thing between our passenger compartment and the basement bays is a 1" thick piece of marine-grade plywood covered with Linoleum (or possibly painted cork). There is no insulation other than the carpet pad and carpeting.

My first thought is that it would be good to add some insulation, but then comes the problem of how. There are many (very many) wiring bundles and plumbing parts that protrude through the floor, which would make insulating from the bottom difficult. On first evaluation it seems that the foam would have to be cut into so many pieces that to install that it would be of limited use (and would really make the bus look a mess).

The inside is packed tight with furniture, all of which is permanently mounted making it near impossible to remove without causing serious damage. That makes insulating from the inside also difficult.  If things were gutted I could easily add insulation by gluing foam board to the floor. We're not going to gut the bus - no budget for that and no will to do it.

Then I looked again and realized that the exposed floor is actually only a small percentage of the interior area. The aisle is only about 20" wide running the length of the bus. The rest of the floor is covered with either cabinets or built-furniture. We already were planning to replace the rather thin shag carpet with a thick plush carpet over a dense carpet pad. This should help insulate the floor area in the aisle somewhat.

I know that this situation somewhat limits use in extreme cold weather, but we really don't have plans to do much in the extreme cold other than flee to places not so extremely cold. Oddly, even during weather in the 20s it was quite easy to keep the bus comfortable using the existing heating systems.

The wet bay also doesn't appear to be insulated, but it does have a small electric heater in place which presumably was installed during conversion to help prevent water freeze-ups. Not sure how to insulate the doors on this bay since they are the type of open straight up with a folding back layer, making it nearly impossible to just glue foam board to the back side of the doors.

Hard to believe that the original owners paid what they did for the conversion and didn't get an insulated floor. Maybe they had no plans for cold weather camping? Maybe in 1974 it wasn't considered important? Don't know, but it's sure strange.

Any thoughts? Should we just learn to live with the situation for now and alter our travels to accommodate the lack of insulation? Or is there a way to help the situation without having to gut the bus? Anyone have any luck retrofitting insulation in situations like this?

 on: March 16, 2018, 04:39:56 AM 
Started by windtrader - Last post by pabusnut
I know--but I thought "diverted" was funny, like "it didn't happen to me, but some other poor sap was the recipient"  I knew what he meant, but it was funny to me!

At my work, they track "near misses" which means they HIT SOMETHING with a forklift.
Logic would say you call that an ACCIDENT! 

Not at my work-- 'I nearly missed hitting him, and now he is somewhat dead'

My warped sense of humor strikes again  Grin Grin Wink Wink


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