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« on: November 09, 2008, 01:40:56 PM »

There have been questions on some of the boards about basic should know air brake information. I know at one time someone had some wonderful educational material on air brakes. I have looked but can not find it again. Someone like Bendix, Haldex, Midland had it. The links below are not the detail I am trying to find again. The first and last one will give the reasons, I would like the information available to all.
Thank you for any help.

http://www.cvsa.org/programs/op_airbrake.aspx 

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Section_5_-_Air_Brakes_109900_7.pdf

http://www.crashforensics.com/airbrakefailure.cfm 
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 02:57:25 PM »

Craig,

I hope you pass that info along if you get it.  There was a class on airbrakes a while ago by Bendix and it cost dearly, as I recall.  I think somebody here conducts seminars for a profit at various bus Knut gatherings so I can easily imagine a "rice bowel" issue.  I tried some of Bendix sites but found I was unable to crack the functioning of various valves by their symbol.  Do you know where there is a legend of the symbols used in the airbrake world?

Good luck,

John
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 03:12:56 PM »

Hi John,

Check out this for symbols. http://www.rosscontrols.com/symbols2.htm

Craig, Brake stuff

Bendix service https://www.bendix.com/en-us/Pages/default.aspx

Dual Brake Circuit http://www.mpi.mb.ca/PDFs/DVL_PDFs/AirBrakeManual/ABM_Section6.pdf

Air Brakes 101 http://www.newbiedriver.com/ABCsUpdates/AirBrakes101.htm

These are just a few that I have found.



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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 11:29:57 PM »

Paul,

That is superb.

Thank you,

John
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 03:14:13 AM »

Here is another link that was sent to me by Sojourner. This guy has been a big help when it comes to air brakes. Wink Thanks Gerald!

This covers Spring Brake Installation

http://www.tsebrakes.com/pdfs/installation_guide.pdf

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 08:14:29 AM »

Paul,

Great infomation, Thank You.

Do you have any infomation on the DD3 chambers, diagram etc,

John
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 10:03:05 AM »

This link has a 117 page catalogue of air brake parts. Good pictures to ID your parts.

http://www.meritorhvs.com/MeritorHVS_Documents/100d1.pdf

Arvin meritor: makes many more truck parts then just air brakes, worth looking them up.

 http://www.meritorhvs.com/LODsearch.aspx?keyword=Air+Brake+Control+Valves&category_id=3&product_id=37&publication=All&page=1

Meritor wabco: look like they have stuff on air disc brakes. A google search turned up the above info.

I found this within my with one of my previous post sites. I think this might be worth looking at. I am going to try and order it, they say $25.00 for non members. They call it the industry standard for driver training.

http://cvsa.stores.yahoo.net/pracairinhan.html

This next link is practical air brake adjustment also $25.00 for non members.

http://cvsa.stores.yahoo.net/praibrad3.html


This is a sample air brake quiz. Click on the computer image to start it, not the pricing link. I was really surprised at my score not what I thought it would be!!!!!

http://www.practicalairbrakes.com/USA/usa.html

The above is the type of info I was looking for. I still have not found the internet site that has about a hundred pages of free down load. I believe it is just as good.









 

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 11:03:37 AM »

Hi John,

Here is a good link that explains DD-3's

http://www.bendixvrc.com/itemDisplay.asp?documentID=2393

Good Luck,

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 05:28:26 PM »

Paul,

Great info, Thanks

John

PS They start working on my 14ft X 40ft X 5" thick.Concrete pad and 4 ft pit tommorow.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 05:30:13 PM »

Paul,

I forgot its costing me $4200.00
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 09:45:35 PM »

AIR BRAKE INSTALLATION AND SERVICE GUIDE


Bendix® DD-3™ & SD-3™ Safety Actuators


Air Brake Manual


Bendix Product Catalog with 100+ downloads

FWIW

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 05:15:28 AM »

John,

Great time for putting in a pad/pit, can I use it?  Grin

All the brake links posted should get you more than enough information and guidance. Good reading for cold winter days/nights.

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 11:47:35 AM »

Paul,

Call me on your way though to Breaux Bridge. The pit may be open.

John
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 04:22:55 PM »

The assessment link for cvsa.org seemed to be 404, however here is a general assessment of air brake knowledge.

http://www.virtualriskmanager.net/airbrakes/

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2009, 10:01:09 PM »

Paul,

Call me on your way though to Breaux Bridge. The pit may be open.

John

Hi John, I hope we have the time to stop by going or coming, we'll see. Hopefully it will work out, I'll let you know.

Thanks,

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