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« on: December 07, 2008, 05:11:03 PM »

Most of the seats in my bus are original bus seats.  None except driver's seat have seat belts.

I assume I am out of luck for securing child seats.  The other issue might be state law.  Children under 12 require seat belts, but adults only need them up front.

I have been thinking about doing a holiday lights tour for my extended family, but then I realized seat belts for kids would be a problem.  I'm also less than certain that I want to expose my bus to road salt.  I've driven a total of 20 miles in the winter and the salt from that trip caued some pretty serious rusting of the steel wheels in that short time.  Road salt is applied pretty much daily in the winter months at least to ramps and bridges regardless of precip.
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 05:40:57 AM »

ratchet straps maybe connected to the undersides of the seat, or even more permanantly to the seat floor bolts?

that would hold the car seats that we use in the van for the little ones anyway.  not as easy as seat belts, but it should serve the purpose and, if stopped, show you were trying.
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 06:36:30 AM »

Keeping the kids safe and following state laws can be two different things.  You might want to check the specific laws regarding seat belts for the type of vehicle you have (ie: registered as non-commercial motorhome?)   In many states, RVs are exempt from standard passenger car seat belt laws. 

In any event, you still want to make sure everyone is safe. Keep the front passengers belted, and everyone (including adults) seated.

 
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 12:28:41 PM »

I think I am pretty much going to give up on this idea.  I don't see my brother going for this.  The child seat might work, but the booster seat for the older nephew requires a seat belt.  I don't know if they would be okay with the older nephew just sitting in a bus seat.

For safety and liability reasons it might be better to just hire a limo company to do a holiday lights tour, but the cost would be much, much more.

My bus doesn't really have any front passenger seats like a regular motorhome.  The driver is at least 18 inches below the passengers.  I left the front bulkheads in place because they are welded in place very well.  I believe any half way reasonable LEO would consider all of the passengers seats to be rear seats not requiring seat belts.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 01:49:17 PM »

Brian take them and enjoy it! Limo's run $75 to $200/hr! Most have a 4-6 hr min. and will limit the "tour distance with in a certain radious! USE THAT BUS! USE THAT BUS! USE THAT BUS! Grin  BK  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 02:46:30 PM »

Brian take them and enjoy it! Limo's run $75 to $200/hr! Most have a 4-6 hr min. and will limit the "tour distance with in a certain radious! USE THAT BUS! USE THAT BUS! USE THAT BUS! Grin  BK  Grin

My brother would be the one to decide if he wants to do it since he has the kids.  I'll have to email him.

I did find a limo service that would do a 3 hour holiday lights tour for $255 plus 20% gratuity.  Unless the economy is really tanking, the tours are probably pretty well booked by now anyhow.

My other big issue would be heat.  I don't know if the generator and three or four electric heaters would be enough.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 03:14:11 PM »

i'm with bk.  Use the Bus!!

as far as heat - we have one toe-kick in the rear and 1 toe kick by the kitchen that we use to heat our bus to about 50 deg or so in the winter.  so far, even at 20 deg, has stayed between 40 and 55.  the only reason it is so high is that we have blown a breaker before and i don't want everything to immediately freeze.  at 50, it will take an hour or more for pipes to start freezing. 

i think if i turned all 4 toe-kicks on, we'd be warm enough.  and the bus does have bus heat as well.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 04:20:10 AM »

 Grin http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=7383.msg71746#msg71746  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 08:27:17 AM »

Belfert, our 4106 has six of the original seats, and four of them are forward facing.  The forward facing seats each have retractable lap belts that are anchored to the frame of the seats.  They work very well with child car seats that have bases and their own straps.  They don't work and we don't use them for kids that are in booster seats.  My kids' seats are good for 80 lbs.  For friends and family that have kids over 80lbs, they either let the kids sit on the couch or decide not to join us!
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 11:14:35 AM »

from what I unsestand if the vehicle is originally equipped with tem you must use them  Cool
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