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Author Topic: Prevost XL rust issues  (Read 3567 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2008, 03:13:47 PM »

Gyro,

Exactly!!!!  The current engine has 160K on it.  They usually manage to get 300K out of a 8V92 so I think the coach has close to a half million miles.  I know that a Pre will go many millions but they aren't maint free.  I would be looking at full brake redo w bearings and seals.  Shocks.  Alu rims wear out.  But at 40K I would expect there to be problems and I would go long on that inspection by professionals.

Great look'n bus though.

Caveat Emptor(?)

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Agreed. If the coach has been used that much since new (doubtfull, probably not the original owner, or use) it could have 1.5 mill on it. Not TOO bad for the coach, but a LOT for the conversion components, IMHO.I'd bet that gen has a lot of hours. It is good looking, though. Mitch
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2008, 04:00:13 PM »

This coach was used as a cross country ambulance and was taken care of by our good friend John Silvers.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2008, 04:05:16 AM »

I drove this coach over 10,000 miles before the new engine was installed.  This is a lot of coach for the money.  If you got the shell free you couldn't do the inside for what John wants for the coach.  This coach ran under DOT and had to be ready to leave and go anywhere at any time.  It is probably in better shape than most of ours.
The pictures were just taken, but don't show some of the things the coach needs.  Most of what it needs is just TLC.  TLC doesn't cost a lot just takes time. 
The engine was a out of frame rebuild by a good CO. and is running clean.  I looked at it last week and there are no oil leaks. 
You could get in and go now without doing anything but fueling.
I have no connections to this bus.  John is a friend and I have driven the bus, but this info is just to try and give you some info from a fellow busnut.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2008, 07:02:24 AM »

Johned; Prevost use no stainless steel in the sub frames any longer while visiting the factory I got a close up of the buses and ask why stainless wasn't used in the sub frame.I was told they did try it for about 2 years and the stainless was to brittle and would not hold up to stress and vibration, anything above the floor is steel.Watching the new X3-45 being built for Peter Pan and Greyhound they used no stainless construction only fiberglass and steel to save money and running the East that will be a rust bucket in 10 or so years.FWIW the XL's are being replaced by the X3-45 in 2010 it is a long wheelbased combination bus for the entertainer market also,sad to see the XL's being replaced by a fiberglass sided bus.  have a great day
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2008, 06:06:13 PM »

I thank all of you so very much.  I would give John's coach much consideration if were in the market at this time.

Thanks again,

John
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2008, 07:45:13 PM »

Quote from: gyrocrasher
"On another note, there is a 1990 Country Coach version on eBay right now with a buy it now price of $49K"
 

Wow. There's one that has been used. My calculator says over 7K miles a month. I notice they don't give
the total mileage. Undecided
Also they seem to believe that 8V92T runs on gasoline!  Cheesy
Here's the link.
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-PREVOST-COUNTRY-COACH-MOTORHOME_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50056QQihZ004QQitemZ140287785358QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


Well, well, well!
I know that coach! Cody does too! As a matter of fact I still have an unpaid invoice laying here beside me on my desk! For service done to it here at my shop. I don't know any John Silver, but it was indeed used as a medical transport bus by a guy named Dick White of Sunnyvale Enterprises of Sebring, FL.
It's not a bad running coach, but it does have lost of flaky rust everywhere underneath it! And as said it needs MUCH TLC.
Also I don't if they got the inside repaired or not. One of the drivers they fired got doped up and came out here to our shop while it was here and trashed the interior, then laid down in it and went to sleep! I had come in EARLY in the AM and had gone to bed, and sometime between then and when dad came home in the early afternoon Marcus came up and decided to "trash & crash". The only reason we new he was here was he was running the generator for A/C. Dad came up to the house and asked me why the generator was running on the "medical bus"? (as we called it) I had NO IDEA what he was talking about & it was the same week end that the landlord sunk his firebird in the pond! So my first thought was the drunk landlord had been down there fooling with it and tried to start it to drive it, but was unable to figure it out and started the genny by mistake. But as it turns out it was their ex driver Marcus curled up on the couch. I tried to open it and go in to shut off the genny, but the door was locked. So I pounded & pounded on the door until a still dopey Marcus opened the door. He said he needed to borrow my phone to call Don (Dick's right hand man up here). So I dialed the # and handed the phone to Marcus. Well when Don didn't answer and he left a voice msg. dad told him they had told us "they didn't want him around the coach anymore and he'd have to leave". So he grabbed his duffle bag, walked around the outside and shut the genny off and started out down the drive on foot. Dad opened the door and saw the door key was not on the dash where they left it. So he called Marcus back and asked where it was, he told dad "I thought I put it back"! Dad said "no I just checked" So he pulled it out of his pocket and handed it to dad and left.
After he'd been gone awhile and dad and I were headed to the house I decided I'd better turn the A/C units off so that something didn't blow when the genny was restarted! As I stepped up in the bus I found broken glass everywhere, some broken wood from cabinets, and liquid poured everywhere from the middle back! The ceiling fan it the bedroom had been destroyed, mirrors broken, blue liquid everywhere, stuff tore off the walls, just trashed!
I ran and told dad he needed to look at it, and called the sheriffs dept. And they sent an officer out and he took a report and used my cell phone to call Mr. White. Once that was done Mr. White thanked me for calling the law & him and told me Don would be by to see the damage and we'd go from there.
Well Don came out and talked to dad several days later while I was gone, looked over the coach and found even more damage than I had. He had the sheriff come back and take an updated report and more pictures. Then they wanted us to give them an estimate for the insurance company. We couldn't do that as we are mechanics and not conversion specialists. So they asked us to fix a couple things it needed and service it and they would pick it up and take it back to FL to get the estimate. That is the last we saw or heard from it or them!  FWIW Grin  BK  Grin 
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2008, 05:04:21 AM »

The bus that is for sale now isn't the one that was trashed at your place.  That was the Brown bus, they were both 1990 buses.  They were both traded in here in Lakeland on another bus.  The Brown one has been sold.  This is the best of the two buses.  This one has almost no rust, the other one was loaded with rust. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2008, 06:06:00 AM »

The bus that is for sale now isn't the one that was trashed at your place.  That was the Brown bus, they were both 1990 buses.  They were both traded in here in Lakeland on another bus.  The Brown one has been sold.  This is the best of the two buses.  This one has almost no rust, the other one was loaded with rust. 
Jack

Jack I don't mean to argue with you, but this one LOOKS exactly like the one we had here! I remember the A/C compressor having the belt removed and some other things ablout also! I can not and will not swear that I'm right and your wrong, but the # of the one that was here was P2! Cody can probably tell us if I'm wrong or not as I thnik he took pics of it!  I never did, and I also will agree abut the rust! I could be wrong, and if so I am sorry. But to me it looks like the same bus we had here.
FWIW Grin  BK  Grin
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