I asked them about a CDL and again was told that I did not need the CDL unless I carried over 9 people or hauled any type of material that was NOT part of the bus.
They told you wrong.
You need a CDL if the GVWR is 26,001 or higher, even if all of the seats are out, until you get it registered as a motor home.
I was told by 2 different people that work for the DMV and one officer at the Southbound Scales on I-85 at Belmont and they said that "IF" I hauled anything in my "private bus", only then I would need CDL's. Thats why they stressed not to haul anything but myself...no people, no furniture, no lumber, no stored boxes, not even firewood.. You say both DMV people and the officer at the scales told me wrong???. You may be right..but could you lead me and the others that were also told wrong to where you got the right info? I was even told I could leave the seats in.... they didn't care about the seats...they only cared if people were sitting in them. I've searched and searched and can't find anything in writing concerning the State of North Carolina regarding a non-commercial, empty private owned bus, and CDL's. I've already got mine home anyways but sure there are others that may need to read those laws you have since there is so much bad info floating around with the NCDMV.. Thanks...
From the Feds (http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm
"Drivers have been required to have a CDL in order to drive a CMV since April 1, 1992.
"The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) has developed and issued standards for testing and licensing CMV drivers. Among other things, the standards require States to issue CDLs to their CMV drivers only after the driver passes knowledge and skills tests administered by the State related to the type of vehicle to be operated. Drivers need CDLs if they are in interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce and drive a vehicle that meets one of the following definitions of a CMV:
"Classes of License:
"The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:
"Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
"Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
"Class C -- Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials. "
Now, a guardhouse lawyer will jump on the "interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce" part, and say that it doesn't apply to the coach that you just bought. However, under the law, transporting the coach itself is "commerce" -- it is a commercial vehicle until the minute that a title is issued to it as a motorhome. It doesn't matter whether or not it's for hire, or what the actual weight is on the scale. The number of seats only determines whether you need a Passenger endorsement on your CDL to legally drive it.
This is the LAW. Luckily, a lot of the time, we can skate around it because of COMMON SENSE on the part of the officials we meet. However, if you get an Earn While You Learn nugget State Trooper, or a weighmaster bucking for the next pay grade, they can make your day a memorable and unpleasant one.