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Author Topic: inverter/charger and battery bank for Ice Cream trucks Maybe OT?  (Read 8255 times)
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2009, 09:48:36 AM »

Where's Circusboy90210 when you need him.

He's been trying to work on something like this for awhile now.

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2009, 12:27:42 PM »

Home brew ice cream truck by home brew owner.

Whatever you do, don't leave it so he has to return sheepish to get upgrades or repairs.

Build to his spec, make a few recommendations that he might want to think about as the "load" on his growing business increases.... leave the guy a face saving escape.

He doesn't want to spend more now, and you want him to come back when he is able.

Personally, I'm with Tom, it needs a generator running full time. A small Honda or Yamaha, with religious oil changes, will be quiet and long lasting. Some chip trucks around here have them slung out back on the bumper.

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Hi BW,

A Honda RV 6 kw generator was in my first proposal when he wanted to put soft serv IC machines in. Until he priced the soft serv's at $8500 each..
We were going to mount the Honda's between the frame and the body under the trucks and install 15 gal fuel tanks.
Maybe next year..
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2009, 12:38:41 PM »

After searching all day for batteries within the budget I came up with the trojens here.
http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/SCS22512V.aspx

Let me know what you think of these?

Thanks Guy's
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2009, 01:37:29 PM »

Nick
 Talk to me about the cameras and DVR he has chosen.  Interior or exterior cameras ?  how many ?
How does he plan on reviewing / downloading images?

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2009, 02:59:45 PM »

Nick
 Talk to me about the cameras and DVR he has chosen.  Interior or exterior cameras ?  how many ?
How does he plan on reviewing / downloading images?



Hi Joe,
I'm not quite sure yet, he has not delivered the system to me as of today.  I'm just installing them for him.
I do remember him saying 3 camra's and a digital recorder that he downloads when the truck returns home.
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2009, 03:02:28 PM »

Nick, I have used Trojans on My sailboat for many years.  They usually last about seven years with reasonable care.  I have just changed My bus to eight t-125 6volt Trojans because the distributor had blems for 65 dollars each.  Blems meaning they are 6 months old.  A no brain er to Me ,the only downside is no warranty!  Regards ,John
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2009, 06:19:45 PM »

Nick
  This Siamese cable is a nice cable to work with, ( The coax and the power cables all in one jacket ). You could use the PVC jacket , the plenum is for a office environment- no difference in performance.


http://cableorganizer.com/coaxial-cables/rg59u-coaxial-siamese-cable.html


Twist on BNC connectors - no special tool needed. Should do well with the added vibration seen in the truck.


http://cableorganizer.com/gem-electronics/twist-on-connectors.html
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2009, 06:30:59 PM »

After searching all day for batteries within the budget I came up with the trojens here.
http://http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/SCS22512V.aspx

Let me know what you think of these?

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If I am reading the website info correctly, the SCS225 is a conventional wet/flooded type battery. Like many decisions, I am sure price factors heavily into the equation.  The SCS225 is probably a better "bang for the buck".  I wonder whether the end user will actually maintain the battery, adding distilled water as needed. I think the deep cycle Gel, or AGM are better batteries for the application, but from Nick's comments the guy probably won't spring for the added cost. I was thinking two of the Trojan 6V-AGM or 6V-GEL models.  
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2009, 06:33:40 PM »

Nick
  This Siamese cable is a nice cable to work with, ( The coax and the power cables all in one jacket ). You could use the PVC jacket , the plenum is for a office environment- no difference in performance.


http://http://cableorganizer.com/coaxial-cables/rg59u-coaxial-siamese-cable.html


Twist on BNC connectors - no special tool needed. Should do well with the added vibration seen in the truck.


http://http://cableorganizer.com/gem-electronics/twist-on-connectors.html



Hi Joe,

We have completed all the power systems in the first truck and now we are tackeling the camra system.
The owner droped off a real hokey system if you ask me and the recorder is a 1280hr vcr that seems prehistoric.
Question, the instructions for the vcr discribes a multiplexer that is needed to accommadate more then 1 camra?
Of course, this multiplexer was not included in the delivery... I put a call into the owner and he has not recieved a
call back as of yet from his supplier and this is holding up my completion of the job.
If anybody knows of this beast, please feel free to inlight me.
Thanks
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2009, 06:58:34 PM »

Nick - a video multiplexer in this application can combine multiple camera inputs for recording on one VCR/CDR - it can also be used for combining multiple inputs for viewing on one monitor - HTH
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2009, 07:02:39 PM »

see--> http://www.ezwatch-security-cameras.com/shop/Video-Multiplexers-p-1-c-330.html
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2009, 07:52:44 PM »

Got It..

Thanks Niles and Pete

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2009, 10:51:23 PM »

With those size 31 batteries, you need 2.5 batteries to equal one size 8D Lifeline AGM battery (255 amp hours, compared to 105).  Or with two 8D Lifeline AGMs, you'd need 5 of the size 31's to be equal.  With my experience with AGM batteries and the fact they need NO maintenance, and the fact they charge twice as fast as a flooded battery, I highly suggest you use the Lifeline 8D batteries to eliminate all the headaches of flooded battery upkeep-especially with an ice cream truck.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2009, 08:55:26 AM »

Uh..

Back to the cotton candy machine. It may have a capacitor type variable speed
motor for the spinner and then the heater section may have a hefty draw.

MSW may not work correctly, You would have to test one to see if it will work.

Sorry.. Just rambling here...
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2009, 01:53:53 PM »

Note,

I just got off the phone with the customer and I asked him why would he want to have the cotton candy machine on the truck

when he could make the product in the mornings at his busisness and bag it up to hang in the truck? I heard silence for a few seconds... Huh

The cotton candy machine draws 4.5 amps and thats not much but, when is the driver going to have time to make it? Plus that

stuff is messy. So, that may or may not happen...

Nick-

PS, anyone want a fudgie wudgie bar?
not meaning to burst anybody's bubble on this one.. I've operated many different types , brands cotton candy machinery. they are more like 27to 39 amps a piece. alway's had trouble running them in canada because the  little hockey arenas onlyl have -17 amp service anywhere in the buildings.
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