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« on: May 04, 2009, 06:56:16 PM »

OK, so we paid 1500 for the motor. Engine only! So, was this a good price? We called around, and we found a lot higher prices. Anyhow, think we will see if we can get our money back out of it. We were told by the guy that runs the coach line we got it from that it has about 300,000 on it. So, what yall think? Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 08:01:33 PM »

$1500 is a great price for the engine-and with 300,000 miles on a 1,000,000 mile engine-lots of life left in it so long as it was taken care of properly.  I've also seen Series 60's worn out at 300,000 miles.  The big question is- do you have all the electronics, gas pedal, sensors, etc to be able to install it properly?  You can amass quite of bit of cost if all the components are not there.  The best way to make sure you have everything is to buy a complete running bus or truck with the desired engine/transmission in it ready to swap out to your vehicle.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 03:27:03 AM »

why was it removed at 300,000 is the best question.

and if it was good why did he not keep it as a spare 
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 07:31:48 AM »

It was removed because they were going to just scrap the bus, and had already taken the motor out of it before we bought it. So, they agreed to sell it to us so we would have a motor for the bus. We have delt with them before, and they are nice people. It was in service when the fire happened. I know the coach line regularly sevices their busses. They have their own service company.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 07:38:46 AM »

You need to get away from "motor", a motor is an electrical devise, what you have is an "engine" as in internal combustion engine.>>>Dan
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 10:23:33 AM »

You need to get away from "motor", a motor is an electrical devise, what you have is an "engine" as in internal combustion engine.>>>Dan

Is that as in outboard engine or enginecycle or are those electric?  LOL
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 11:17:00 AM »

My uncle worked for CSX & it wasn't considered an engine until it was rated well over 1000 HP   Shocked  Grin  Cool
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 11:28:48 AM »

Boats according to the navy operate under the water and ships float on the surface, just curious if the boats have motors and ships have engines?  LOL,  Just curious how many realize many diesel electric locomotives are 2 strokes.  I sold a electron beam welding to a company that overhauled  locomotive diesel cylinders and i found it interesting that the pistons had no wrist pin.  A different type of engine for sure.  Ot You think? John
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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 11:53:45 AM »

Again with the engine/motor deal?how many times we gonna split this hair,huh?LOL
60 Series engine,with 300,000 mi?sounds interesting,have you guys looked the engine over,has it been refired since you have owned it? Please send a PM with your asking price,thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 12:22:45 PM »

Again with the engine/motor deal?how many times we gonna split this hair,huh?LOL...

Looks like "The never ending story" my friend... HA HA
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 02:11:24 PM »

engine (plural engines)

A mechanical device used to produce rotation to move vehicle or otherwise provide the force needed to generate kinetic energy.


motor (plural motors)

A machine or device that converts any form of energy into mechanical energy, or imparts motion

There you have it! Straight from Wiki!

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 01:47:21 AM »

Junkman,
I used to work in a large steel mill and have drifted thru the repair shop for the diesel tenders which had pistons size of a 55 gal drum. They used an overhead traveling crane to pull these. I never knew, nor would have suspected No Wrist Pins...

How then do they operate? Is that they cylinders are vertical with the pistons on top and weight and power stroke pushes the piston down against the connecting rod ? 

I need to search this. Again, and not amazingly so much I do not know. And whence I do learn, of what value ??

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 03:28:07 AM »

I was told in school that a Motor had no stall point, with locked shaft it still tried to turn until failure.
An Engine pulled down just so far and bingo, dead, until restart.   006 Bill
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2009, 05:08:01 AM »


There you have it! Straight from Wiki!

Works for me! Not much difference if you ask me!

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Paul,

Thanks for telling us what Wiki says. Now I can go and change it to be more "accurate" Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin. I might let this be a committee decision, so weigh in now with your votes.

Of course I am kidding. And I don't have a dog in this fight Grin Grin Grin.

God bless,

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2009, 06:13:14 AM »

Gary, the connecting rod has a ball on the upper end that sits in a cup in the piston.  A split plate which has a matching cup in it sits on the top and is held in with a large circlip.  The manufacturer of the engine that I developed a cylinder replacement process for was made by EMD.  If anyone thinks that a DD is oily they should take a look at a locomotive diesel.  Info of no value except to a gear head!  Regards,John
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2009, 11:25:55 AM »

Update on motor. We got to go home for a couple of days, and look the motor over. Well, my hubby remembered it all wrong, but memory was jogged when he looked at it. The bus we got was 1500, and the motor was 5000. It is a COMPLETE MOTOR. He was thinking it wasnt, but it is. So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if anyone is interested, we live in GA. We will be home the first half of June. I know we did some cking, and found the price of a series 60 with 300,000 on it was between 5 and 7000. Anyhow, just wanted to update the info.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 02:48:52 PM »

You need to get away from "motor", a motor is an electrical devise, what you have is an "engine" as in internal combustion engine.>>>Dan

So you are driving along in your bus, and you want to turn into a vacant lot. There is a sign posted that says "Motor Vehicles Prohibited"  You feel it is okay to pull in because yours is powered by an engine?

Oh, and General Engines might be declaring bankruptcy tomorrow.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2009, 07:13:08 PM »

You need to get away from "motor", a motor is an electrical devise, what you have is an "engine" as in internal combustion engine.>>>Dan

So you are driving along in your bus, and you want to turn into a vacant lot. There is a sign posted that says "Motor Vehicles Prohibited"  You feel it is okay to pull in because yours is powered by an engine?

Oh, and General Engines might be declaring bankruptcy tomorrow.

Wow. You needed to reply to this 3 week old thread in order to take a shot?
C'mon. You're better than that. Sad Mitch
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 05:13:15 AM »

My apologies.   I did not look at all the dates.  This thread appeared near the top of the active list, with the last post just hours earlier. I did not realize that this entire thread dated back so far.

However, when a newer member comes on the board asking for assistance and they become nit-picked for the choice of their wording, (and there was nothing wrong with the wording in the first place), I will continue to come to their defense.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 11:09:31 AM »

 ???I really dont know what to think about this reply. I am not a mechanic, nor do I know all the correct term to use. I guess you must think of some who dont know,
especially women, as too dumb to post here. Sorry, dont mean to be a smart ***,
but, that got to me. I have found almost everyone on these boards
very friendly and helpful. Things like this could discourage some from
posting on here for fear of ridicule. Thanks to all the helpful ones on
here, and all the advice and help you have given me.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2009, 11:24:56 AM »

Ruthi,you use what ever word works for you I certainly won't mind. Grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2009, 01:15:22 PM »

Ruthi,
   Don't fret over which word to use.  bottom line, they knew what you mean't.  Guess I will go ride my son's new Honda enginecycle now.  LOL  Jack
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2009, 02:37:46 PM »

Yep Ruthi, you go ahead and called it a motor, or an engine, or "the thing in the back that makes all the noise".  It's all fine with us and we welcome your questions.   Heck, you can even go and misspell it if you want.  If someone takes a shot at you, we'll take care of firing back, (even if it's a little late).

[Jack, make sure that Honda is registed with the Department of Engine Vehicles, and god forbid, don't put any motor oil in it!  Cheesy]
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2009, 02:43:53 PM »

 Grin Thanks yall, you made me laugh!
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2009, 04:25:14 PM »

Jack, make sure the breaks work on that thing!
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2009, 05:30:08 PM »

Im glad we went with a bus, not a enginehome, or it would really be confusing, lol.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2009, 04:38:36 AM »

Yup, that is why we got a bus too. A enginehome didn't sound right to us. And we certainly didn't want an electric motorhome, no matter how "clean" it is Grin Grin Grin. Then again I really don't think that the department of engine vehicles would let us register it Grin Grin Grin.

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2009, 04:49:41 AM »

Y'all could use the word Powerplant and cover all bases! Roll Eyes

ruthi, don't ever stop posting no matter what name you call it! Who cares~It's all good!

Jack, don't forget your enginecycle helmet! HA!

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