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Author Topic: Stuck 2 carrier aircon units on the roof of our bus...pics  (Read 5866 times)
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« on: July 05, 2006, 08:37:19 PM »

Our bus finally has 2 ugly white boxes stuck on the roof.Took most of last sunday to frame the hatches and skin them over.Still have the wiring,insulation and interior wood to do.Here's outside.

Here's inside

There's more write up and pics here http://redbusconversion.blogspot.com/
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 08:48:34 PM »

Nice Job bigtim44,

Now it's time to use your bus....No excuses,  May as well go to Disney, your bus is...LOL

I like that RED too....

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 09:26:58 PM »

Paint them red also!  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 09:35:56 PM »

Yeah... the red paint is kinda bright  Grin I was thinking about putting some stick on graphics over the red to break it up,a buddy of mine can lazer cut them up to 20 ft long.I race a 1930 model A up at bonneville so I could go with the hotrod theme and put some kind of flames on it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 10:26:04 PM »

Hey Bigtim, What class do you race?
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 04:03:09 AM »

Looks greatTim! It made a huge difference in my bus when I could plug  it up an run the roof airs. Of course, its da humidity here in hot 'lanta thats the killer.
BTW, You and I are in the minority with a set of bunk beds also. If you click on my profile and check my photo page, you can see how mine turned out.   Chuck Lott Douglasville Ga
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 04:53:37 AM »

Yeah... the red paint is kinda bright  Grin I was thinking about putting some stick on graphics over the red to break it up,a buddy of mine can lazer cut them up to 20 ft long.I race a 1930 model A up at bonneville so I could go with the hotrod theme and put some kind of flames on it.

Hey bigtim.  That would look awesome!  Personally, I don't think the air units look that bad...  Beats the heck out of burning up.  Plus, most normal people are not going to look at the top of the bus and say, "he shouldn't have put those ugly air conditioners up there." 

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 05:21:35 AM »

I also have no objection to the appearance of rooftop A/C's. I painted mine the same color of the roof and I did not feel they were objectionable. I really did not want my coach to look like an over the road bus.  Roll Eyes

One suggestion I would make would to make provisions to add a third unit in the center of the coach. I found that several times I would have liked to have the additional cooling a third unit could provide. It could then be added at a later date with little or no trouble.

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Hey bigtim.  That would look awesome!  Personally, I don't think the air units look that bad...  Beats the heck out of burning up.  Plus, most normal people are not going to look at the top of the bus and say, "he shouldn't have put those ugly air conditioners up there." 

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 05:29:52 AM »

If you intend to use the coach when it is hot outside you may want to consider adding the third unit now. All professional conversions use 3 on 40 foot coaches and 4 on 45 foot coaches. I can tell you that on a typical hot day in the mid south two units might get the inside of the coach down to the mid to high 80's.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2006, 07:11:06 AM »

I agree with Rauchy. I have three roof airs evenly spaced with the front one and back one like yours, and one in the middle.  While haven't had to use all three much (only when the temp is above 100), typically will use the front and back for going down the road and the middle in camp.  Nice to have the choice and the extra if needed.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2006, 07:20:58 AM »

I've been thinking about the 3rd AC unit,I guess nows the time to frame another hole in the roof and provide wiring,even if I don't actually put an AC up there right now...makes sense.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2006, 08:13:42 AM »

Yeah, yeah get the third A/C.

What class do you race at bonneville?
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2006, 08:26:20 AM »

Nice bus, I like yor destination sign.

Probably too late now, but there is a big difference in appreace between the carrier low profiles and the regualr ones.  The low profiles look a lot better and work the same.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2006, 08:28:34 AM »

Forgive me if I am stating the obvious or something you have already considered, but one of the things that new (store bought) conversion owners have a hard time with is energy management.

Now is the time to also give real serious consideration to what devices you will put on the two legs of your electrical panel. While it is possible to easily run all 3 AC units on campground 50 amp service, you have to consider what loads for other devices you will have on at the same time (such as refrigerator or inverter/chargers). Most new owners think because they have 50 amps available to their coach they can run everything, but the reality is that they may be only powering the hot water tank and battery charging in the evening when they can get comfortable with one or two AC units.

Typically I see the front and rear AC on separate circuits so while you are running only those two, or maybe just the center one, then you can throw on all the other devices.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 08:35:20 AM »

Campground 50 amp service is 240 volts at 50 amps. This is equivalent to a 12,000 watt (12KW) genset. This gives you two legs of 50 amps at 120 volts. I think it would be really hard to utilize that much power at any one time. Possibly some all electric coaches might use this much but I seriously doubt it.
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Forgive me if I am stating the obvious or something you have already considered, but one of the things that new (store bought) conversion owners have a hard time with is energy management.

Now is the time to also give real serious consideration to what devices you will put on the two legs of your electrical panel. While it is possible to easily run all 3 AC units on campground 50 amp service, you have to consider what loads for other devices you will have on at the same time (such as refrigerator or inverter/chargers). Most new owners think because they have 50 amps available to their coach they can run everything, but the reality is that they may be only powering the hot water tank and battery charging in the evening when they can get comfortable with one or two AC units.

Typically I see the front and rear AC on separate circuits so while you are running only those two, or maybe just the center one, then you can throw on all the other devices.
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