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Author Topic: If is wasn't for bad luck.... the Shepherd saga continues  (Read 3220 times)
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« on: July 17, 2009, 07:52:27 PM »

As most of you know, our trip in the bus was cut short due to serious engine problems (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=12599.0).  Well, a part of that trip was to attend the FMCA event in Bowling Green next week.  We had already paid our booth fee and both of us were scheduled to do seminars.

So we made the decision to load up the trusty old Durango and head out today.  We got about 125 miles into the trip and blew up the engine.  It was my fault.  A customer called and I pulled out of the rest stop while talking to her.  I must have had the transmission in 2nd an over-revved the engine.  I was talking to the lady and Pat was writing down the information and neither of us noticed the problem.  I went another 25 or so after shifting the transmission and it let loose.  My guess is that I lost a piston.

Well, at least this is a seldom used car, so it can sit until we hit the lotto.

We had it towed back home and loaded up the PT Cruiser and made it out to North Platte NE tonight.  It something happens to the Cruiser, we are in real deep do-do.

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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 08:44:51 PM »

Can only get better, right?
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 09:26:55 PM »

Jim,
I feel SOME of your pain.  Several years ago my wife's Dodge neon was in the shop for a leaking head gasket.  She took my Chevy Astro van to work.  Calls me part way there, and says that she had no power, got off the freeway, the van stalled and would not start.  OK, I go rescue her with my 1954 Chevy Bel Air and take her to work.  Find out that somehow the engine and tranny went out in the van.  At the end of the day, the Neon was fixed so we went to pick it up after work.  2 exits away from the dealer, the tranny lets go in the 54!  The costs were no where near as bad as what you are experiencing, but man, I sure feel for you!  Good luck and keep us posted!

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 10:49:55 PM »

Jim, isn't the Durango computer controlled? If it is, isn't the computer supposed to prevent dangerous RPM of the engine?

A lot of the modern engines use cog belts for timing, and when those let go, the valves and pistons meet up in some engines, especially the diesels. I wouldn't think that you would have to worry about overrevving unless it was towed.

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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 04:25:15 AM »

Hi Tom.  The Durango is a '98 with the 5.9L (360 cubic inch) engine.  That is an old engine converted to electronic.  I think it is pretty primitive in terms of electronics. 

It is an old work horse engine, but it must not like high RPM.

Like you, I thought that the engine/trans electronics would prevent this, but guess not.

We can now add another reason not to talk on your cell and drive at the same time Shocked

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 07:25:13 PM »

Jim & Sean,
I have not been on the bb'd for a while and am sorry to hear of the mechanical problems you have been having with your buses.  Hearing this news from veteran busnuts is not encouraging right now for me, I will do my best to be sure my ole 8V71 and manual tranny are in the best condition I can get her in for our first trip if we ever get to having it.

Anyhow I wish you both luck in your situations, I wish I could help you in other ways and am sure someone will help.  I have no idea why these things happen to those that deserve it the least.  I guess life just will always be a challenge to us all. 

Keep us informed when you can especially if there is light at the end of the tunnel for you both right now.  I know all us busnut family members are concerned for you both.  Jim, Give Pat our best also.
Take care you guys, good luck again.
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2009, 08:15:33 PM »

The issues I have been having with the bus and now the Durango has reinforced the huge support group that bus folks are.  I have had several private emails, great phone calls and all of these posts from folks that are the very best in the world!!

I have to share with you a phone message from a good friend:  Bob Ward.  I hope many of you have gotten to meet Bob.  If you did, you would instantly enjoy him and his great sense of humor.

His message:  "Get rid of all clothing with a zipper in it.  Don't take any more chances"

Pat was checking my email and phone mail while I was driving and repeated the message.  We both laughed for many miles and have continued to do some for most of the day.  THANKS BOB!!!!

We have taken a bit of an and "oh well" attitude.  We are treating this trip to Bowling Green as a bit of a tourist adventure.  We have not traveled much in a car and stayed in hotels for quite some time.  We sure miss our bus, but we are having fun playing like we are "normal folks" Grin Wink

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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2009, 08:33:17 PM »

I just knew you could not be beat down Jim.  Keep up with the spirit and our prayers will all be to help you and Sean out as well.  Safe travel you guys.
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2009, 09:32:22 PM »

Jim do I need to find you a 5.9 now? thanks Kent
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2009, 02:28:02 AM »

Through all of this and Today is His Birthday!

Happy Birthday Jim!

Lets pray that the resources will get in line and you will be able to get through this!

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2009, 04:51:20 AM »

Kent, the poor old Durango is not a candidate for an engine swap, but it is fun to think about it.  And, BTW, thanks for finding the Series 60 engine in Ogden.  We are doing some more checking on that engine.  Sounds like it has had some issues over the years.  Not sure why.  Right now it is the leading candidate.

Paul thanks for telling the world that I am getting older Grin Grin  Given the circumstances, I could be pretty down in the dumps on my birthday.  However, I have a great wife, three great daughters (and SILs) and eight fantastic grandkids.  Also, given my advanced age (67 Roll Eyes, I enjoy pretty darn good health.  How can a person be down when you have all that going for you!

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2009, 04:56:01 AM »

Jim,

Happy birthday! What a time. I hope thing go better for you.

God bless,

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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2009, 05:01:28 AM »

Jim wish I could do something to help, not sure what I can do but all you have to do is ask and if i can it'll be done, happy birthday.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2009, 05:08:17 AM »

Happy birthday Jim
Things will get better, this is just another one of those bumps in the road.  I am sure everything will work out for you.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2009, 05:22:44 AM »

Thanks all.  Gary, I wanted to say that it is good to hear from you along with all the others.

If we can work out the logistics (including $$$$$ Grin), we are thinking about going to Bussin' 2010.  Hopefully we can see you guys, and all of the rest of the east coast folks.  You will have to sing "Hungry Eyes" for Pat again Grin

It looks like several of the folks from Eagles International are thinking about making the trip.

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2009, 05:27:13 AM »

Jim,
   If your bus is not ready, you are welcome to stay in our house during Bussin 10.  Jack
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2009, 06:39:22 AM »

Hey, happy birthday Jim. You didn't mention that last nite when we talked.  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2009, 07:17:09 AM »

Jim, What are friends for! Grin

Now I know how old you were when I was born. Hee Hee

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2009, 07:47:46 AM »

Jim, a call from Ward is better that anything for someone down he can always make you laugh no matter what is going on in your life.
 Another guy I miss was his running mate Dick Bell happy birthday my friend one good thing is you don't have hair to fall out.   
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2009, 04:07:40 PM »

Jim,
Sorry I did not acknowledge your Birthday, Happy Birthday even though it is late.  I too hope to attend Arcadia this year, I have a few reasons to go down there this year.

You can bet I would be proud to sing any song Pat would love to have sung to her, it was my pleasure two years ago and any song Ole Merle Haggard sings I especially love to sing to her.  Pat is a real sweetie and we are proud to have you guys in our circle.

Good luck with the bus, again, keep us all informed.  If there is anything we can do as a family be sure to ask.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2009, 05:02:02 PM »

I'll reiterate... happy birthday, Jim, and sorry for all of your troubles of late.

You have the right attitude and spirit by counting your blessings to help put all of this in perspective. Hang in there and keep us posted on your bus (and Durango) issues.

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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2009, 03:19:11 AM »

Hi folks.  One of my good friends reminded me that I had not let you know that we made it to Bowling Green.  Pretty hard drive because of the almost 1300 miles in just over 2 days.

Pat McNeil (hope that spelling is correct) has his beautiful Scenicruiser here.  One of the folks who called about engines said that he thinks Pat has a Series 60 in it.  I hope to get his phone number and make an appointment to sneak away from the booth and get a picture or two.

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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2009, 05:26:46 AM »

Jim,
  I can't heep with Pat McNeil's phone number, but I can confirm that he does have a series 60 in his coach.  Jack
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 10:12:45 AM »



Just cannot know how Pat built such a beautiful bus when he couldn't even get the door hinge on the right side.

Has to be a engineering genius or very smart or know the right people.

It is 45 ft and 6 inches because his buddy had a 45 ft Prevo and he wanted his longer.

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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 08:30:13 PM »

Jim - Pat would be a good one to talk to about your problems - I've not seen the S60 in that beautiful Scenic (last time I saw it was the 8v92) but I'm sure it's done right - FWIW

Ned - You never heard of suicide doors? LOL
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