Chat is such a great tool - even for those like me who are REALLY inexperienced in a lot of things.
I thought I'd post so those who have been hesitant to chat would see that it is a-o-k!!The purpose is expressly NOT to show how bad of a mechanic I am - let's let that one go please.
The guys solved my muffler problem - and I did the repair in about 30 minutes as opposed to 1 1/2 hrs spent unsuccessfully the night before.
Ncbob So, tell me about your 1" washer, Phil.
plyonsMC9 well - a bit embarrassing - but I just want to see if that is something I need to try to fish out of there..
Ncbob Hmmm. tel me more.
plyonsMC9 I found a one inch hole in the muffler, right before we are supposed to be leaving on a trip. so I thought - JB Weld - as it takes some doing to get the bus to a shop
Ncbob Why a washer..instead of a wrap of some sort?
plyonsMC9 figured I would take her in to the shop when I got back in town. going from ILL to arkansas.
plyonsMC9 'cause the guy at Napa didn't know about wrap, and neither did I!
Ncbob Oh, Florida Crakers experience lit up some bulbs for you?
plyonsMC9 you are very insightful.
plyonsMC9 yes, that is what prompted me to check the muffler.
plyonsMC9 Found the hole.
Ncbob Mine's got some aluminum sheet riveted into it. It works...for now.
plyonsMC9 on the underside of the muffler.
plyonsMC9 'could have been like that for years. - i don't know...
plyonsMC9 All muffler & exhaust systems facing the bus seem just fine... but the muffler metal underside had a problem - facing the street.
Ncbob I'd fine some sheel aluminum...Aluminum flashing or valley material..something like that and rivet it on!
plyonsMC9 One of the two retaining straps is broken also - but at the same time, I can't even budget the muffler, so it isn't loose..
Ncbob There should be some solid metal to rivet to.
plyonsMC9 There is. most of it is in good condition.
Ncbob Are you GM or MCI?
plyonsMC9 What about the washer inside the muffler. It is small. Is that something to be concerned about?
Ncbob It'll blow out!
Ncbob Your muffler is up there in the middle then?
plyonsMC9 Another one of my famous repairs..
plyonsMC9 blow out.
Ncbob You'll be in the Hall of Fame one of these days.
plyonsMC9 It is down - underneath.
plyonsMC9 behind the left (driver) tag axle
Ncbob I only know MCI...mine is behind the driver...no tag and easy to get to (thankfully).
plyonsMC9 Yes, mine is very easy also. (also an mci).
Ncbob You might Email Chuck Lott. He's a s bright as a new penny!
plyonsMC9 easy access.
plyonsMC9 I have way too much to learn about these things!
Ncbob C'mon...you're an oldtimer here.
Ncbob Sorry, Frank...not meaning to shut you out.
plyonsMC9 Hah. Old timer yes. But heavy on the computer side. Much less real experience on bus & engine, etc..
Bosshosssport96 I enjoy reading
plyonsMC9 Yes, Frank
Bosshosssport96 I don't have any exhaust problems
plyonsMC9 Feel free to jump in! I'm almost done rambling about my embarrasing muffler repairs...
Ncbob Guess we're pretty much all in the same boat...a bunch a amatuers learning.
Bosshosssport96 Did you have any problems with the JB weld concerning heat from the muffer
plyonsMC9 I haven't fired it up yet!
plyonsMC9 I saw on the package where they had repaired a Cat engine with it..
plyonsMC9 no problems
Bosshosssport96 Just curious
plyonsMC9 Plus I'd heard you could use it for that as well.
Bosshosssport96 You can
Bosshosssport96 I use JB weld all the time
plyonsMC9 If it wasn't so hard to get someone to work on the bus, i would just take it to a shop!
plyonsMC9 That is good to know.
Ncbob You can actually drill and tap it. Marinetex is even stronger.
plyonsMC9 With the hole being about an inch in diameter, I needed somethign to fill in the hole, else the jb weld kept sagging..
Ncbob I've reapired cast iron engine blocks with Marinetex...it's brutal!
plyonsMC9 Thus the washer
Ncbob Try a beer can! That's Dallas'favortie!
Ncbob Or a coffee can!
plyonsMC9 Do you mean, take metal from the can, use that to fill in the hole?
Bosshosssport96 If you put a piece of tape on the back side,it won't drip thru
Ncbob Put some BIG hose clamps on it and GO
plyonsMC9 Then fill around with jb weld?
Ncbob I'm listening.
plyonsMC9 OK, tape, I'm starting to get it...
plyonsMC9 I was concerned if I put tape there, that I would cause more problems.
plyonsMC9 But I guess the muffler isn't really a precision thing that is easily messed up.
Bosshosssport96 It won't
plyonsMC9 Won't tape catch on fire?
plyonsMC9 Sorry for silly questions!
plyonsMC9 Just melt away I guess?
Bosshosssport96 Like Bob said,a piece of metal pop rivited on is the best way
plyonsMC9 If I don't have pop-rivet, would four screws work?
plyonsMC9 Assuming I welded over them ..
Ncbob AS long as you use sheet metal screw into solid metal.
plyonsMC9 yes, solid metal. idea being to hold the metal in place for the jb weld to set.
Bosshosssport96 Self starting shet metal screws with JB weld
plyonsMC9 OK. this is good.
plyonsMC9 Thanks guys!!!
Ncbob Now, wasn't that easy?
plyonsMC9 I really appreciate it!
Ncbob Sounds like Frank has more experience than me.
plyonsMC9 Sure, but now I gotta get outside since daylight is going away, and this is my last chance to fix before our AK trip!
plyonsMC9 Yes, Thanks to you both! Frank - good to meet you!
Ncbob Moving right along.....
Ncbob Good luck wwith your repair.
Bosshosssport96 Good luck
plyonsMC9 I'll let you all know how it goes. Gotta run -