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« on: August 22, 2009, 01:43:30 PM »

Argh!  I am now leaving on my third trip to store today installing my rear LED lights.  The bad part is changing into clean clothes for every trip so I don't get the car dirty.

I swear I've wasted 2 1/2 hours or more going to the store today even though the furtherest store is 15 minutes each way.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2009, 02:15:04 PM »

Depends on how many times you forget to get what ya went after! Or how many lights? Why don't ya pick them all up in ome trip, instead of picking up one each trip?!
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2009, 02:42:55 PM »

I had all the lights to start with.  I've had to buy fasteners, screws, and new drill bits.  I haven't missed anything on my trips yet.

Time to get back to work after getting back from the store.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2009, 02:43:30 PM »

You don't have a patent on that  Grin My workers at the shop will tell me when I come in" Rick were out of masking tape, Rick were out of sandpaper, Rick were out of rags, You get the idea. My response is always: is the phone not working? I have accounts everywhere and all they need to do is pick up the phone and order it.  Cry  I think they expect me to run out and pay full tilt because they are too lazy to order the stuff before they run out.

What does this have to do with you Belfort, Nothing just do what I do and if you even remotely think you will need buy it and not just one but by 10 of them and you to can have a garage full of stuff you may never use,  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2009, 02:45:53 PM »

Before we moved to St Pete, the nearest store was 40 miles away, can't tell you how many times I did the same thing.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 02:56:07 PM »

Brian,

The solution is simple.  You leave on your work clothes (as I do), then take the old truck to the store (as I do).  If you really must take the spouse's car (as I never do), use an old sheet or blanket over the seat.  Don't forget to wipe the steering wheel and door handles afterward, and say thank you. 

Now, for the really important stuff, what are the LEDs being mounted on?  Pictures??
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 03:08:23 PM »

You’re not only one…I been there done that, but with fewer unnecessary trips.

One of the solution I do is to keep a low cost assorted stock of......in a plastic parts tray with cover & handle
1) Assorted sizes of 24 screws & 6 bolts & nuts & washers for metal & wood
2) 3 or more of tubing connectors for copper & PCV to match its size
3) 12 or more stay-con electrical connectors with crimper
4) 2 rolls of good electrical tape
5) Shrink-tubings in 1/8” to 5/8” dia at 6 inch long
6) A tube of RTV
7) A small roll each of low voltage wire from 18 to 10 ga.
8 ) A Plastic-Welder epoxy (very good & the latest version)
9) A full set of sharpen drills
10) Write the list of the above items you use up for the next grocery trip to town,  
11) There many more to mention and I sure you already have them

There are many more to add but these are for unexpected jobs errors.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2009, 04:34:24 PM »

As many as it takes to get it right! Grin
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2009, 08:02:32 PM »


3 is usually a min for any project Cheesy


Shoulda got a box of self drilling self tapping screws Wink
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2009, 08:19:54 PM »

Question: How many trips to the store does it take to install some lights?

Answer: One more
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2009, 09:41:07 PM »

Now you know what takes the most amount of time on a conversion-is the constant trips to the store for that extra part you either forgot, or broke.  Would be nice to just park in a hardware stores parking lot so you could just walk inside everytime you needed some more hardware.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2009, 05:27:36 AM »

I know one couple, that when converting their Eagle, parked at a Home Depot.  They were spending so much in the store, the store manager showed them a place to park near the rear of the store and even showed them an outlet to use for their extension cord.  Jack

PS: This was several years ago, times may have changed
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009, 05:43:03 AM »

I had to make a a fourth trip to ther store yesterday.  My 1/8" drill bit snapped.  This trip was to Menards as the hardware store was closed by then.  I have a whole lot of various nuts and bolts left over from projects, but never the right ones.  Some day I want to go crazy and spend a couple thousand at on online store on various nuts and bolts so I can avoid some trips to the store.

I only have one vehicle besides the bus and it is nearly brand new so I treat it with care.  I would like to have an older beater pickup, but insurance and registration would cost too much.

No pictures yet as I'm not done.  The engine door is still propped open so the pictures wouldn't show much.  I don't even have all the new lights installed yet, let alone the new wiring.  I spent a good four or five hours on the new LED license plate lights alone because I had to so much custom work to get them installed and make several trips to the store.

I already have to make a trip to the store today as the hardware store had the wrong sizes mixed in the bin and I didn't notice it at the store.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 06:03:37 AM »

Brian,

You might want to check and see if a beater truck would cost all that much. We have a decent 97 GMC 2500, and for liability only, we it cost us 35 a month (that is with USAA, which is nice if you are eligible). I tried quoting Geico, and they were outrageously priced!!! They wanted 200 a month for the same bare-bones coverage!

I think that it might help that I have a completely clean driving record.

God bless,

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2009, 06:44:11 AM »

I don't understand how it would be possible to do a bus conversion (or damn near anything else) without a beater pick up truck. Just can't be done.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2009, 06:52:26 AM »

I always use coveralls and have a pair in the bus.Just wash hands and your off.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2009, 08:15:54 AM »

My wife says that when I die she will open a hardware store to sell
all the extra stuff that I have collected over the years.

I finally realized that "stores" and "sales" all have a special memory-eraser
somewhere near the front door. You walk into the store and your memory gets
erased at the entrance. Oh.. Yeah making notes and lists doesn't work either, Seems the eraser changes your ability to read and you end up with everything
neat that you really didn't need and when you get home you find that what you
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2009, 08:39:15 AM »

So far on this project I haven't forgotten anything while at the store.  The issue has been breaking/missing drill bits or finding I need a screw or nut/bolt I didn't figure on earlier.  I should have made sure my drill bit set was complete when I started.  I've been to Menards/Home Depot at least 25 times since I broke or lost my 9/64" drill bit and never bought one and yesterday or Friday I finally needed that size.

I do need to go to Napa now to look at a replacement LED light for my third brake light issue.
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When I was a youngster, My dad had 2 five gallon buckets of nuts and bolts.  We always had search through those for that infamous needed fastener. Cheesy  I would have sworn that they were all individually custom pieces and each one only fit one thing which we did not have. Cheesy  I later found out that I could have ridden my bike to one of two hardware stores and bought that bolt for a usually less than a nickel(and a bike ride would have been more fun and quicker).  Now I don't usually look for bolts, just go to the store, (did i mention there is about 7 places to get ice cream on the way Shocked).  Sometimes I just go before I start to see what I might need.  Like niles500 said, one more,  I go ahead and get it out of the way. Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 05:30:27 AM »

awhile back I was at a buinsess that sold salvage and they were closing the store they had lost the lease on the building. 

They had just bought the bolt and nut slection from a ACE hardware store that had a fire.  I was able to buy most of the nut, bolts and screws for .10 cents a pound, now they are stacked in the grage where the new wife stuffed them 3 years ago and I still go to the local ACE hardware store to get my nuts I can get them faster that way.

Maybe some day I will get these sorted out and where I can get to them.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2009, 05:55:31 AM »

We purchased a nice metal box with an assosrtment of bolts (1/4" through 1/2"). When I get low on a particlar size, I restock that size when I am at the nhardware store.  When you lived about 15 miles from the closest store, you learn to plan ahead.  Jack
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2009, 06:32:12 AM »

We purchased a nice metal box with an assortment of bolts (1/4" through 1/2"). When I get low on a particular size, I restock that size when I am at the hardware store.  When you lived about 15 miles from the closest store, you learn to plan ahead.  Jack

Jack,

As you well know we both live a ways from the nearest hardware.

My solution is to have at least 3-5 projects going at the same time.

If I need something for one, I don't run for the part, I write it on the big pad in the shop and move onto the next.

I stop at the local hardware about 2-3 times a week on my way home.

I can tell a few of the old guys in there are trying to figure out what I am going to do with all those unrelated pieces and parts I have just bought.  Grin 

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2009, 06:33:56 AM »

About drill bit….always has on hands at least 3 or more of your common broken or dull bit.

About getting bolt & nut by the pound….Tractor Supply has them of all grades & sizes. Stainless Steel as well coated ones. I buy a pound of each popular size to have on hand. Nut & washer from ¼ to 3/8 inch are always in my storage tray.

Remember…the cost of each trip to a store will automatically buy at least a few extra popular pieces every time…whether it 1 or 2 drill bits or whatever.

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2009, 07:01:59 AM »

Yes, I have several projects I can work on, but this project absolutely has to be done by Thursday afternoon so the bus can leave on a trip.  No lights in the rear would be an issue.  I couldn't drop this project and move on to something else.

I've been meaning to buy a complete new set of cobalt drill bits, but the money keeps getting spent on other items (mostly for the bus).  I also have in the back of my mind that I should buy a bunch of nuts and bolts in bulk, but again I never gather up the money to do this either.  No Tractor Supply anywhere close.  I didn't realize they sell stainless stuff in bulk.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2009, 09:33:12 AM »

I have an account at Fastenal. They don't have good prices, off the shelf, but when you get discounts, then they have good prices.

They have a great selection of SS. I found self drilling (4 hardness), SS screws work great for drilling holes in the SS on the bus.

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