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Author Topic: question regarding rear brake relay.  (Read 1132 times)
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« on: September 05, 2009, 04:36:33 AM »

The PO or the PPO or the PPPO installed a later model rear relay on my 4104.  I had not been concerned about this 'til I read a post about someone's bus where a "bobtail" (?) relay had been installed instead of a proper relay.  Well the rear relay on my bus looks truckish, no numbers that I can see, maybe someone recognizes it.  Barring that I will do some pressure tests making sure relay boosts at the same rateas the application valve.  As always thanks for the input.

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 05:48:36 AM »

That bus with the round windows is cool any more pics of it?
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 07:58:39 AM »

That bus with the round windows is cool any more pics of it?

I have a few from last winter.  This was the 76 mtl olympics bus, my gus guy said there's is talk of tarting it up and sending out to vancouver for the olympics...it's pretty rough but there's enough stuff around he could do it.  Saw my first V6-92 changed out of a transit yesterday, not as easy as it's sounds but I guess easier than it could be.










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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 08:31:04 AM »

Air valve looks Bendix, kinda like a R-6...that's a place to start anyway. Looking again, the bottom is not R-6 as R-6 has four delivery ports on bottom, but the domed top is similar.

If the valve only has the four lines, probably the large one (shiney brass) is supply from an air tank, the smaller one is signal (from your brake pedal) and of course the bottom two  are delivery...no problem with the compounding issue. I am assuming this is a service brake relay valve...yes?
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 08:36:26 AM »

Here's the link to the Bendix pic of a "Bobtail proportioning relay valve"

http://www.bendixvrc.com/itemDisplay.asp?documentID=2799

It has two signal line ports, one for the brake pedal, one for the air suspension.

As noted, yours looks traditional, and has no signs of the tell tail extra signal line port.

Here's the catalog pages:  http://www.bendix.com/en-us/service/library/Pages/Catalog.aspx

Scroll down to "valves and related devices"  the R-6 is here: http://www.bendixvrc.com/itemDisplay.asp?documentID=2791

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 11:24:30 AM »

Thanks guys that should help.  patrick.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 03:06:35 PM »

Air valve looks Bendix, kinda like a R-6...that's a place to start anyway. Looking again, the bottom is not R-6 as R-6 has four delivery ports on bottom, but the domed top is similar.

If the valve only has the four lines, probably the large one (shiney brass) is supply from an air tank, the smaller one is signal (from your brake pedal) and of course the bottom two  are delivery...no problem with the compounding issue. I am assuming this is a service brake relay valve...yes?

I guess I shoulda stuck with my first impression! I think the RE-6 has the four ports, two 1/4" & two 3/8"
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