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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2009, 02:52:54 PM »

I was assuming Nick's "C" model coach has the rolling lobe bags that mount top and bottom with 2 studs that are part of the bag assembly. Because the "D" bus of the hockey team's is that way. No air beams or rings, or having to plate, like the older models. So maybe I was wrong (happens to me lots), and I am sorry for not checking the facts. Changing old style bags is still not rocket surgery, it take a little longer.

JC

You are RIGHT!

I am sorry...I should have look at his profile first. Then it all the easier to change.

Thank you JC for correcting it.

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BTW Nick...if you will, could you get a photo of where the leak is while still on the bus?
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2009, 06:24:29 PM »


You can handle Nick,     Piece of cake compared to some things you do. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2009, 06:56:12 AM »


 Just did both sides on mine in july...........

   Liberal usage of wd40 helped alot.
   used the Mohawk kits............had to replumb the air lines Smiley
   
   It's a dirty job but not overly hard

   FWIW
    Skip
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2009, 07:10:58 AM »

That would be one thing i would suggest......spray all nuts and bolts with wd 40 or pb blaster or whatever type of penetrating oil you prefer, a couple of times a day ,for a day or 2 before you start taking it apart.....makes life a little easier.   Grin
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2009, 09:38:31 AM »

How's it going??

I'm a little late to jump in here, sorry. When I did mine I ordered all of my parts from MCI, they were quite reasonable. However if these bags are the type with the ring on on top and bottom with 16 bolts per ring, make sure you order the right bolts for the top. They are a little longer than the bottom ones. The bottome bolts will not work in the top, I tried, as they sent me the same bolts for top and bottom. Other than that it was a good experience.

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2009, 04:16:01 PM »

Hi Guy's,

Phone calls are made, the bus is in position, gathered all my heavy duty tools, and cut down some 6"X 6" timbers to get ready to tomorrow.

Thanks for everyones advice!

I'll keep ya all tuned in.....

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2009, 04:31:42 PM »

I didn't like the rust stuff on the bolts.

I just cut them down the middle like I said.

The ones I sprayed did not come apart and then smoked like crazy when I cut them.

Nick just go right from the top down the center of the bolts right through the nuts and each half falls off.

I wish I had started that way --- would have saved me a bunch of time.

Let us know how it goes for you

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2009, 07:50:01 PM »


Nick,

If you can patch the hole enough to raise the bus on its air you can block it up with that,  then you'll only have to jack your axle to get a wheel off,  alot easier than trying to lift the whole bus.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2009, 01:47:14 AM »

Nick,
If I can assist in any manner, please call. I also can ferry your parts home as I travel by Luke's everyday.
I also have a stack of 6x6 & 8x8 etc for blocking in Woodbine.
I would be glad to stop and lend a hand, Heck, I'll even drink the beer whilst you work.....
Let me know.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2009, 03:10:40 AM »

Nick,
If I can assist in any manner, please call. I also can ferry your parts home as I travel by Luke's everyday.
I also have a stack of 6x6 & 8x8 etc for blocking in Woodbine.
I would be glad to stop and lend a hand, Heck, I'll even drink the beer whilst you work.....
Let me know.

Gary


Hi Gary,

Thanks! I'll let you if I need something else at Luke's. Oh, can you fit 4- 315/80R/22.5's in your benz? Lol
Stop by at the shop this week, I will be removing greese from my bus everyday...
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2009, 06:58:17 AM »


 Nick,

   You probably already know but just incase Smiley

  For those of use who have had to deal with rusted stove bolt type setups for years there are some minor tricks.
  The bolts on the air bags to me fall into the same catagory.

  1. Clean (air nozzle wd40 twice)
  2. If the bolt starts spinning as you remove the nut leave it til the end.
  3. Usually there are only one or two that were stubborn so you need pressure against the bolt.
  4. stick a chisel or flat pry bar under the rubber and ring and pry up/down so there is pressure against the bolt.
  5. screw in a half a turn then out a full turn (like you would tap threads in a hole)
  6. If it is particularly bad take a break and libation then try it again.

  YRMV R=results

 Good luck
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2009, 09:34:04 PM »

Poppi

I hate to disagree with someone wise enough to put an L10 and ZF into an 8

Skip the cleaning and lubing -- if they come apart fine

I found that cutting them was the easiest --- especially the ones you can't see or easily reach

Nick let us know what you did and how it went

Poppi I look forward to meeting you some day and comparing buses.

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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2009, 11:01:58 PM »

Nick
  Melbo is correct with his method ,the only thing that worked a little better for me was a  air die grinder with a cut off blade(lowes has a kit with arbor and cut off wheels  for around $15.00) also spare wheels 1 package of 5 should be enough. Gloves,face shield an safety glasses are a must!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  On a side note the dirt and grime will wear off from in about two weeks Cheesy
  Good luck
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2009, 07:08:42 AM »


 Melbo,

    "I hate to disagree with someone wise enough to put an L10 and ZF into an 8
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    Sorry but I bought it that way..............It was a long look to find a non-DD
    I have nothing against DD's just wanted a 4 stroke. Cat was at the top of my list but
    settled for a Cummins.

     Though I did have a real belly laugh on the wise part ....Thank you

   My experience comes from 20+ years of changing plow sweeps 500 bolts per year (same vein as the airbag bolts)
   and yes at times they had to be cut off that is why my caveat was YRMV

  Your bus is and will probably always be nicer than mine (it's a life style thing I'm sure) as I finish mine it is geared
  more towards handling mud, dirt and lots of people for meals. (I can't go with the rolling cook shack concept but close)
  When we were at Nationals (horsey thing) we had 11 people in the bus having a meal.


  Later
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2009, 06:23:44 AM »

Jacking Day!


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