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Author Topic: 1-1-2010 Flying J will become Pilot.  (Read 5162 times)
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« on: September 26, 2009, 07:26:00 PM »


1-1-2010 Flying J will become Pilot.They have not yet decided if the Flying J,s name will change. I sure will miss those beef dip sandwiches as there restaurants are going to change to National chains. I hope they remain as RV friendly, dump stations, up front parking etc.

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 07:47:53 PM »

Pilot will ruin them!  Just my opinion!
Pilot owns 51% of them.
They have already closed some restaurants, however I think that may have already been in the works.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 07:52:02 PM »

John, looks like what China doesn't buy here the British do shame about Flying J being sold but kids today like the money more than dads dream.  
Jay Call the founder of Flying J was a friend of mine and my wife's cousin before he lost his life trying to help someone.
I was told CVC only bought the retail part of Flying J like the Travel Centers.fwiw      

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 08:24:29 PM »

I am disappointed that Flying J will be owned by Pilot.  They are my choice for fuel for the bus when they are an option.

Flying J is not selling out voluntarily.  They filed chapter 11 bankruptcy and Pilot bought the truck stops part of the business out of bankruptcy.  Flying J bought a bunch of oil futures when oil prices were skyrocketing.  By the time the futures matured the price of oil had dropped already so Flying J lost a ton of money on all that oil.  Flying J bet wrongly that oil prices would keep going up.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 05:17:20 AM »

Some of the other truck stops such as TA & Loves also have dumpstations. You have to check their listings to determine which ones.  Jack
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 05:21:41 AM »

Flying J in Brunswick GA now has a lock on the dump and charges $8.00 if you want to dump.  Things sure will be changing there.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 05:42:07 AM »

Belfert FWWI Jay's daughter Crystal did sell the travel centers voluntary she had the money to bring it out of bankruptcy but decided to sell and keep the other parts of the business .
The fuel stops were a very small part of the Flying J family of corps from farming,banking, trucking and to the 5 refineries across the USA. which will supply Pilot with the fuel now.
The bankruptcy was put in place so not to honor the 100.00 plus a barrel price of oil that is the way the system works even Texaco has done it before.
There is talk about her selling the refineries to Marathon Oil or Sinclair Oil

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 09:12:23 AM »

With only a couple of exceptions, TAs ARE dump stations.  "Toxicwastedumps of America" . . .

The first TA that I ever saw which I would voluntarily pull into was the one in Breezewood, PA, and the other one which comes to mind is the I-80 stop near Devenport, IA.  There are some that I would take the chance of running out of fuel rather than pull into!

Some of the other truck stops such as TA & Loves also have dumpstations.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2009, 10:21:59 AM »

I am no bankruptcy expert by any means, but doesn't any sale of assets go to satisfy the creditors?  I don't understand how it would have benfited the owners.

The company I work for just went through chapter 11 and we are actually emerging tomorrow so I know a tiny bit about it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 12:18:10 PM »

I am no bankruptcy expert by any means, but doesn't any sale of assets go to satisfy the creditors?  I don't understand how it would have benfited the owners.


That's not how it works in Chapter 11 (which is what FJ filed).  You may be thinking of Chapter 7, which is permanent bankruptcy with liquidation.  Ch-11 is for reorganization, wherein unsecured creditors get shafted completely, and secured creditors end up having to renegotiate terms if they ever want to see any of their money or collateral.

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 01:53:23 PM »

Sean, that could not have been said better!
Until we make these goons accountable...and I don't mean putting them in a cushey jail for a year or two...and making them pay back a million or two when they stole...(Yes, it is stealing grandma).. millions more...there is not much incentive not to steal!
(Look at bernie madoff...stayed out of jail while 'negotiating his crap!)
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(PS...while I am ranting...did you see where bank of america in Gaffney, SC refused to fly american flags...in fact took them up when the lady placed them in front of the bank... at the funeral procession for a serviceman that died in Afganistan last week.  In fact the county took all their business away from bofa...and when someone asked if they were worried about early withdrawal fees said, "That man gave his all for this country...no we are not concerned about fees!"
The shame is if the sitting president would have left them alone bofa would have gone away...as they should have!
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 06:53:35 PM »

On my Aug-Sep 5000 mi trip I found Pilot fuel stations much easier to use and their prices were almost always less than FJ, didn't notice if they have dumps or not. When I could find a Pilot I used it.

I almost always find a big traffic jam at FJ and just pass them by.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 07:00:18 PM »

Gus, I don't recall any dump stations at Pilot, (or Loves, or any of the smaller fuel stops.)
I am not sure about Truck Stops of America, (Or is it Travel Centers of America.)
I don't remember Perto Fuel Centers having them either.
(TA bought Perto a year or so back...imagine that...the absolutely worst chain buying out the best one!  At least they have not seemed to ruin them...yet!LOL
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 07:37:51 PM »

What I like about Flying J is that they will accept my MasterCard and give me the cash price and also get the 1 cent/gallon discount with my RV card.  The "other" truck stops charge the credit card price which can be 6-8 cents per gallon more. 
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2009, 07:40:45 PM »

I am not sure about all LOVES but the one south of Ft. Worth Texas (Garden Acres Exit) has a dump but it is in a place that you have to park where it is a little up hill from the far side of your vehicle to the dump.
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