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Author Topic: What happens when an Eagle rusts?  (Read 6680 times)
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« on: October 17, 2009, 07:37:43 AM »

I've got a friend looking at a model 05 Eagle. Before we inspect it I'm trying to understand what actually happens when that tubular steel frame behind the stainless panels rusts. Does the bus break in half? Engine drop out the rear? Front suspension break off?

Also, might need someone in the Denver area to do a drive by inspection for us?

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2009, 07:54:19 AM »

First off from what I understand they leave little piles of red dust or red stains (in the rain) everywhere. And according to Cody in Michigan the plates get cheaper every year!

No seriously, you need to contact;
Gary LaBombard here on this board .
He has done some very extensive research and made a very informative video on where & what to look for when it comes to Eagles.

Grin  BK  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 08:04:24 AM »

The bus gets lighter over the years, hence you get better fuel mileage.  Seriously, if you're inspecting the bus, you should be seeing cracking at key points long before a component "falls off".  Personally-after seeing numerous rebuilds on Eagles, even with their great looks and suspension system, I'd spend my money elsewhere, like a MCI102C3.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 08:06:24 AM »

Fred , They areas to look at are around the wheel wells on the boggie and  the drivers, My understanding of the Eagle is that the weight bareing is all done from the upper frame in the foof line and around the windows. Now Iam not the sharpest pencil in the box when in come to Eagles Iam new to this as well. You can go to the Eagles Internationl web site and look around there are some very smart  guys over there that eat and sleep Eagles . Good luck Andy
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 08:07:51 AM »

All the other brand owners make fun of it on this board. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2009, 08:17:18 AM »

Well ya know what they say It's lonley at the TOP . lol
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2009, 08:29:08 AM »

Well ya know what they say It's lonley at the TOP . lol

Andy you are so right!

It's very lonely being up here on top with Setra's (Kassbohrer's refined and modern version of the Eagle, Kassbohrer was the original designer & mfg of the Eagle!) Paul Hastings, Harry aka "Harlee", Wayne Stanford, and me are the only ones I know of way up here on the top, but hey you Eagle owners are right up here beside us! Grin
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2009, 09:17:05 AM »

I thought they were laying eggs and spawning these...  Grin I keep following them hoping to catch one  Cheesy

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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2009, 03:50:08 PM »

Let's see...  Rust Dust = eggs....  Well, I'm glad that's not true, that'd be like a blue whale being born the size of what it eats then growing up into that HUGE animal...  We'd have trillions of little Eaglets running around right now with Leprechauns driving them!  XD  Of course, it wouldn't be so hard to find money then, and they'd immediately be hunted into extinction for the 1 microgram of gold they'd be carrying on them at the time...  But hey, it adds up after a while! lol

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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2009, 04:19:05 PM »


 If you own an Eagle (like me) It's an excuse to buy more tools !!!

 You got to have a good Mig welder, Plasma cutter, power hacksaw, cutoff saws,

 all kinds of clamps, grinders . Get the Idea!!

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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2009, 04:56:49 PM »

Fred, I would be glad to go look at an Eagle ( any Eagle). Maybe Jim can pry himself away from his enginw swap and go with me. If you need me to look at it call me. 303-591-0372

Good Luck Wayne
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2009, 06:00:10 PM »

Some Eagles, like the NJT model 20's were built with corten? steel which is rust resistant.  So, look around and get someone experienced to inspect the coach for you.

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2009, 06:49:40 PM »

Yep.  I would be glad to go with Wayne.  S&S is still holding my engine ransom, so I can find the time to help with the inpection.

Jim

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BTW, as you probably know, both Wayne and I have Eagles, so we have a bit of an idea of what to look for Grin
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2009, 07:02:08 PM »

Andy,

Do not think for one minute that the MCI,s are rust free, far from it. The problem is they rust from inside out (You dont know its there). My MCI 9 was completely stripped and all the square tubing that was rusted was removed, replaced, painted with the rust preventative. then the panels were re installed with a heavier gauge metal. Another gad area on the MCI,s is around the engine rails (holding the engine in) some have bad problems in this area.
Rusty has a lot of experience with the Eagles, The Eagle group are very active and will help you guys with any challenges you may encounter.

John

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2009, 08:06:25 PM »

Eagles in salt will generally rust in the fenderwells. The entire bus is made up of trusses, each side below the windows, across all axles in both directions. The first place I would look is straight down the sides at the belt line. This is where the painted siding meets the anodized siding. If you see waves there RUNNNNN. Any water that gets in runs down to that point. That is the bottom rail of the main support for the side truss. You can see it from inside the bays. Constructed from 1.5 x 3" tube. Next look under the windows. This is the top of main side truss. AC bay is another one. Look around bottom. Main truss area for drive, bogie and engine cradle trusses. Hope this helps. As for the other bus wanabes, we still soar like an EAGLE even though we are surrounded by turkeys, mci's, gmc's etc.... LOL!!!
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