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Author Topic: What happens when an Eagle rusts?  (Read 6981 times)
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2009, 08:41:18 PM »

Dear Johns 4014's

                   As a matter of fact I do own a RUST FREE Eagle. Made it that way myself by cutting out every pc. of rust as I stripped it to the bare frame myself. Took me 8 plus years to take it apart and put it together!! Have you ever done that, or are you to busy with your feeble effort to intimidate via the keys? Happens to be my second Eagle. I guess my little crack about flying like an Eagle ruffled your FEATHERS? Seems like all you wanabe's are very quick with your humor when you get a chance to trash the eagle, but turn into an butt when  someone puts it back at you!! This board has lost several experianced people because of just that!! I however am just NOT SKEERED!! I will come back to every come back. Why, Because if I can tear a 40k lb. bus apart and put it back together I'm more than a little crazy to start wiith. If you want to go have at it, but remember what they say in the nut house WERE ALL HERE BECAUSE WERE NOT ALL THERE!! p.s HAVE A NICE DAY EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE AN EAGLE
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2009, 09:21:44 PM »

Dear John, I have also added a picture and website so you will feel better. Probably dosen't look as nice as your little picture. But it is my bird. Just wondering why your picture looks like an mci when you are johns 4104's
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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2009, 10:16:00 PM »

It always amuses me when I see something advertised as being made of Al and that it won't rust!

Of course it won't rust, no non-ferrous metal will rust but it sure will corrode.

And what is rust.... corrosion!!

It makes no difference what you call corrosion it will make your metal toy fall apart in time.
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2009, 03:40:30 AM »

Ericbsc,

Well said.

John
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2009, 04:34:08 AM »

....remember what they say in the nut house WERE ALL HERE BECAUSE WERE NOT ALL THERE!! ...
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I guess that applies to the busnut house too,   

Thanks for the giggle this morning Grin
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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2009, 04:37:03 AM »

John,  Even though you don't have an eagle you are an early bird up!!! Glad you have a good sense of humor also!! Thanks for the reply. Just courious is it 4104 of mci? Pic looks like MCI.
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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2009, 05:18:48 AM »

Ericbsc,

The photo is a 1981 MCI 9, I did not do the conversion, but I know all about the rust that was on it. Florida airport low milage bus, but still had all sorts of rust??

John

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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2009, 06:22:18 AM »

Fred, If you fly out and it is a one day trip I will be glad to pick you up at the airport that way you won't have to rent a car.

Wayne
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2009, 08:49:14 AM »

The photo is a 1981 MCI 9, I did not do the conversion, but I know all about the rust that was on it. Florida airport low milage bus, but still had all sorts of rust??

Florida can mean salt air (thus rust) if vehicles are operated near one of the coasts.
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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2009, 09:58:00 AM »

I have a 74 model non converted Eagle plus my driver with no rust they are out there but hard to find a school in CA had the last 05 built I looked at not a spec of rust no where sold for around 15 grand 
You have to love a Eagle to put the time,effort and money into one like most have done.
The first and a easy place to check is the electrical door if it is in good shape in that section it is probably a soild bus because that is the hardest section to repair the rest is a cake walk.


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« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »

Eagle for sale, some restoration needed.
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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2009, 12:20:16 PM »

Len,

Sorry, pal. You got it wrong. That happens to be a MCI. I have seen more MCI rust, then I care to admit.

God bless,

John
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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2009, 12:28:41 PM »

No John, it's an Eagle. But even in that condition it's a better bus than an MCI.  Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2009, 01:05:07 PM »

If it's not a silly question, does anyone know why Eagles rust so badly? Is it bad design (eg. water traps), bad construction (eg. lack of rust protection), bad materials (eg. wrong type of steel), or something less obvious such galvanic corrosion between the different materials? Or is it all a myth and they're actually no worse than other buses of the same era?

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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2009, 02:18:08 PM »

It always amuses me when I see something advertised as being made of Al and that it won't rust!

Of course it won't rust, no non-ferrous metal will rust but it sure will corrode.

And what is rust.... corrosion!!

It makes no difference what you call corrosion it will make your metal toy fall apart in time.

Not so fast...al-u-minny-um does oxidize, but its oxides form protection from further oxidation. Unless you have additional factors like being immersed in an electrolyte with an electrical charge passing through, it pretty much stops right there.
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