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Author Topic: 6v92 puking oil. advice needed  (Read 5301 times)
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2009, 08:02:59 AM »

Might also check to see that there are not 2 rubber gaskets on the filter. Sometimes the old one will stick (stay stuck to the filter housing), and the mechanic will slap a new filter on over it! This will always cause a leak! BTDT! (& fixed it other times too!)
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2009, 08:14:32 AM »

I agree with everyone else. If it didn't leak before the service, it's probable that the filter, drain plug  or filler cap is loose. It would be quite a coincidence if a seal turned loose immediately following a service.

You should be able to see them without getting too far under the bus. Maybe try to clean it up then run it and try to see where it's coming from.

The double gasket thought is also a good theory.

One of the valve covers should have a vent on it. The vent has a steel wool type guard in it. If the above fails, pull the vent out and clean it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2009, 08:56:10 AM »

I would go with both Tom and BK it will be one or the other.

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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2009, 02:49:35 PM »

Thanks for the advice..  The mechanic at Freightliner said the feed line to the turbo developed a pin hole.. They think they can have one of two lines in Texas here tomorrow.  Guess we'll 'camp' at Valero tonight. 


Patience is a hard lesson to learn at times..

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 07:31:38 PM »

Timing and coincidence...how funny is that!
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2009, 06:19:29 PM »

Well, we are more-or-less on the road again, camped 10 miles from the Freightline shop.  Lord Willing we are headed to the Left Coast eventually.

The mechanic was chatting with me while he pulled the old line off, it had a nice worn hole in the metal braid and a cute little hole in the rubber.  When I moved it from their yard into the shop it dumped 1 gal in less than three minutes or so.  Imagine what would have happened if I'd not stumbled on the fresh coat of oil on the rear of the rig.

Got a picture, but my newfangled android phone won't D/L pictures to my Mac yet.  

Thanks for all the support and advice.  =)

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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2009, 07:47:16 PM »

Matt,

Do you have the temp and oil pressure warning light and alarm installed?

You are right..that would have been a heart breaker and a wallet buster.

Happy trails,

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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2009, 08:00:43 PM »

Thanks for sharing MattC, it highlights an excellent point:

We need to INSPECT our coaches.

Rubbed hoses are self inflicted disablements.

Get a bag, maybe two, of those plastic wire ties, and secure everything that hangs or loops, or otherwise isn't held hard up against something. hoses and wiring will rub through and put you to the side of the road, or worse!

Vibration is your enemy.

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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2009, 03:28:53 AM »

Matt,

Are you heading this way when you get 'er fixed? Who's doing the paint? Can't wait to see it.

Glad to hear you got your bleeding diagnosed, that sucks don't it.

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2009, 08:49:26 AM »

Matt,

Do you have the temp and oil pressure warning light and alarm installed?

You are right..that would have been a heart breaker and a wallet buster.

Happy trails,

John

John,

I don't have Silverleaf or such, but my MCI does have a couple dozen idiot lights on the dash.   After I realized she was puking and put another gallon in her, I kept a steady watch (every couple seconds) on the temps and the oil pressure gauges.  Temps and Oil pressure never deviated from normal. 

I actually hadn't planned on stopping for another hour which would have been cut short by a severe lack of HP and a large BOOM, no doubt.

The Lord watches out for children and idiots.  Glad I qualify. =)

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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2009, 08:55:42 AM »

BW,

Yes I agree INSPECT---Inspect!  The hose wore through the Stainless Steel braid then the corded rubber.  However I plan on finding the rub area and putting an external piece of hose around the SS as a sacrificial abrasion barrier.

Paul,

As to the paint job....  Dick in Beaumont said I could use his shed to paint her, however it will be a learning process, so...  I figure it can't look worse than the Yellow/White/Aluminum colors she has now.  I plan on heading over to Dallas & Cat's place for some coffee, then up to your neck of the woods before heading out to the 'left coast'.  =)
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2009, 09:23:26 AM »

Matt;

Glad it was something simple. That could have been a bad dea if you had not been looking.

Hope the trip goes as planed from here on out.

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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2009, 11:37:58 AM »

Matt,

Back in the day...50's and 60's automakers came out with "idiot" lites.  Modern marvel!  Among us aspiring auto enthusiasts, these were looked upon with scorn.  We wanted the real manly man deal and "needed" info to the actual degree or psi.  I was still a teen when I read about the "big red lite" on the dash of all go-fast-racers.  Seemed it was driven by a low pressure/temp switch, idiot lite senders and gave an alarm for those things.  Read a comment by one of the popular auto racing writers where he said that there has been instance in recorded history of a driver having been looking at a oil pressure gauge when the pressure failed abruptly and the engine was destroyed.  Made sense.

I have all the gauges a man could ever want on my RV.  Trans temp, oil temp, differential temp, water temp, brake system failure, voltage, exhaust manifold temp, air fuel ratio mix, fuel pressure, vaciuum and ambient.  I also have that Big Red Light AND a really obnoxious buzzer.  The idiot senders are merged and drive a cube relay.  The relay drives the light/buzzer.  I have a switch to disable the system for start-up and for those occasions where I want the ig sw on for some reason.  I have installed this system on my Rv and the replacement cost of the 440 is a mere $3K.  With an engine that cost $15K I think I would want multi camera feed closed circuit tv in the engine bay.  Now that is a joke but I do intend to install a microphone someplace back there so I can listen to the power plant every once in a while while driving and at startup.  These buses can be very quiet and you might never hear a severe problem in the making.  By the time you hear it in the cockpit it is probably to late and the usual indication is that everything goes silent.  Boo Hoo Hoo!

My two cents,

John
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2009, 06:46:36 PM »

Detroit used a rubber line to feed oil to the turbo on the 6V92?

My Series 60 has a hard metal line to feed the turbo.  I still got a hole in my metal line because a support bracket for the line broke and the jagged edge cut into the line.  The leak wasn't large enough to prevent me from driving 800 miles to Bryce's where he fixed it.  Bryce used brake line and couplers to fix the line since a new one was not readily available.
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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2009, 07:30:04 PM »

Belfert, they use a short pc of SS braided hose the line is steel around the turbo till it gets away from the heat if they are clamped right it has less problems than a all steel line.  

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