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Author Topic: Best source for 8v92ta turbo.  (Read 4129 times)
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« on: November 25, 2009, 01:31:43 PM »

Houston or Baton Rouge area, anyone have a idea for a good source for 8v92TA Turbo? Would you buy new or used? What type of cost?

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 01:40:06 PM »

John,  are you replacing a failed one or??

Do you know the A/R of the hot side turbine housing?

Post the tag information.

If you walk your turbo into a DD dealer the cost is usually around $2K for a factory Reman.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 01:48:09 PM »

John,Sean had a blown turbo a while back,check out the thread here:
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=12676.0
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 02:11:36 PM »

John, why drive to Houston or Baton Rouge Stewart and Stevenson has a place in Beaumont they charge less than a 1000 bucks for factory rebuilt with a 1 year warranty.
Let us know which turbo you have it should be a TV 8511 with A/R 139 
John do not let anybody talk you into a China made replacement they are cheap and cheap made too



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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 05:52:51 PM »

Clifford,

I still have a TV 8511. I have it promised to dreamscape but you said he couldn't use it on his engine.

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 06:09:55 PM »

Richard,I told John to get me the numbers off his turbo he is in Port Aransas or Aransas Pass now if it would work for him he may come your way . thanks 


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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 06:19:50 PM »

Clifford/Richard,

Heading home tommorrow I will pull it on Friday and have the Numbers,

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John
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 07:27:04 PM »

John,

Got your pm. Which way are you going home. I'm about 12 miles n. of I-10 (600 mile marker) off of FM 725. You should get a mirror and see if you can read the number on the back of the turbo. Maybe this 8511 would get you home. I'd be using on mine except it was to big as the inlet housing hit the gov. and wouldn't let it sit on the blower. my engine is a 440 hp with a TV 8101 turbo. I think the 8511 is for a 500 hp. If you decide to go on home and it quits give me a call and we'll see what we can do to get you going. Phone #830-six-two-five-1696.

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 08:05:46 PM »

Richard,

Thank you, I will call you tommorrow,

I am always amazed at the help we get from our fellow bus nuts,

John
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 09:35:22 AM »

John,

I didn't get a call so I guess you made a run for the house. I wanted to tell you I got my reman turbo from Diesel Specialists in Baton Rouge, La. Phone # 1-800-768-0742 and ask for Alan Hutson in parts. He charged me $732.06 for the TV-8101. You might want to send yours in for a rebuilt as it may be a little less. Luck!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2009, 02:50:40 PM »

Zero,

The DDA markins are,,

5102117

HG1893

Which one is it?

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John
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2009, 03:47:32 PM »


Also, if I am having to buy a new/rebuilt Turbo is there any difference in power or Better milage? I would very much be interested in the better milage option. Is this possible or do you just go back with the same one??

John
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2009, 06:07:34 PM »

Richard,

Thank you for your help and input on the problem.
I made it home, pulled the turbo (I did not know the exact part # until I pulled it) and it is a  5102117. On the Diesel specialist site it shows as the same as yours, same price 732 with a 300 core charge (I cannot figure out if it is $732 - $300 = $432.
Did you have a core or was that a straight purchase? I will be in Baton Rouge on moneday so I will take my turbo and go and see Diesel Specialists.

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2009, 07:24:58 PM »

Hi John,

Glad you made it home. The turbo was 732 + 300 core charge. They sent me the turbo for 1032, and then I sent them my old one and they deducted 300 from my credit card charge. Call them before you go!!!!!! They DO NOT have the turbo at their place of business. You give them your turbo, they send it to the rebuilder, he sends it to you.

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2009, 08:34:33 PM »

Richard,

Did you send the whole assembly, both clam shells. Air intake and exghaust?

John
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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2009, 04:37:33 AM »

John,

I called Alan and had him send me a TV 8101 complete turbo and then sent him my old one. If you'll call him monday, and want to pick it up at their place, he can have it there.

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2009, 05:11:15 AM »

Richard,

Great I am staying in Baton Rouge next week (busless of course), so I will get with Alan on Monday. Thank you for your help.

John
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2009, 05:17:31 PM »

John, that is a TV 8101 with the A/R 1.84 it is for a 92 series,the 92 series parts number start with 51 FWIW.
The turbo change alone is not going to help with the fuel mileage when changing turbos you pay a price some place on the torque range for instance a fast spool up you will have the torque and no smoke at the low end then lose it on the top end of the range. 
Not knowing what injectors you have that may be the best turbo for you
So where do you want the power low, middle or top.  

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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2009, 07:46:56 PM »

Cliff,

Right now (before I pulled the turbo) I had no noticeable smoke. The power well I am not experienced enough to know what I have now? What do you have? Low mid or high power?

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John

PS Zreo, you seem to know something about Turbo,s what do you think? You asked for the part #,s What is your input??
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2009, 07:52:47 PM »

John, mine is set up for high end torque I do get a little smoke on take off if I stick my foot in it. 


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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2009, 07:56:32 PM »

Cliff,

What Part # is yours?

John
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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 03:42:17 PM »

John,I use the TV 8511 


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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 01:54:52 PM »

On digging down with the help of Cliff, Richard and Kevin i have found the following..

My 8v92TA Has a turbo as follows

TV 8101 with the A/R 1.84  My friend that had the engine rebuilt is not sure but thinks it around 485 hp.
Right now I do not get any smoke (that you can easly see), so do I stick with 1.84 or go to 1.60 which may give me a faster wind up and better milage.

They make the following turbo,s

TV 8101 with the A/R 1.60 (this is the midrange turbo) and,

TV 8101 with the A?R 1.39,


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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 02:35:19 PM »

Hi John,
What did you see when you looked into the turbo?
Any broken vanes , loose pieces of this or that ?
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2009, 04:58:26 PM »


Frank,

I heard pinging sounds coming from the Turbo as the engine was switched off and the Turbo slowed down. I removed the air intake and spun the turbine blades. If I pulled it away from the exhaust housing it would spin with no noise, but if I pushed and spun it towards the exhaust clam shell it was making a scarping sound. When I did take it apart I noticed that the clam shell clamp next to the exhaust was a little loose. I pulled the complete Turbo out, no vains were damaged with the exception of the tips that had been scraping the ID of the exhaust lam shell. when you move the impeller up down and sideways there is definite play. So i feel like I was blessed to find it before it did any damage.

I am even more blessed to have Cliff, Richard and Kevin,s help to walk me though what to look for and how to do it and were to look for parts..

Dallas,

Great to hear I little input from you, now I know you are feeling better and up and running.

You probably have not noticed that the Turbo problem just started last week.

When we talked several months ago I had no idea what type of injectors,what the engine is timed to and I still dont.

I am/was looking for better MPG 5 or maybe 6 is just not enough. I was hoping a diffrent turbo will improved my MPG (as I have this one out and have to spend the money) might just be the ticket. i would love to brag about 10 MPG would you not. I know from past experience the old 03,s or 04,s may get 7 MPG at best.

As for the 4.5" X 9" hole in the side, its larger than the 5" OD pipe that goes from the air cleaner to the Turbo.


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« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2009, 07:39:55 PM »

John I'm posting a complete 8V92 reference list..   You can see your turbocharger listed as a TV8101 with a 465010-0003 part number or 5102117

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« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2009, 07:49:23 PM »

John, here is the build sheet for your turbocharger.    I received your message this afternoon.  If you engine is really at 480HP, then you might really want to keep the larger 1.84 A/R.   Please realize that the A/R  should not be compared to another "out of family" turbocharger.   It's not a apples to apples comparison when you look at the larger TV85 series.   

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