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« on: December 04, 2009, 01:38:42 PM »

on the road in Oklahoma...my air operated throttle is sticking in the open position... when I let off the accelerator, it gradually releases. I shot WD40 on the linkage.   Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 01:51:19 PM »

It is possible that the air has enough water to freeze. I'm 100 miles south of you and it is 32 degrees here. Not enough info as to your tanks being drained or have dryier on yor air system.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 01:53:54 PM »

Do they use a helper spring to return throttle?Huh?
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 02:31:10 PM »

I do have a helper spring... I am inclined to agree with the idea of ice. When I arrive in Ponca City, I am going to check into draining the tank. I also heard about adding alcohol to the tank...any ideas on how much I need to add and where to add it?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 02:46:41 PM »

most truck stops( real Ones) will have a product for this purpose. I think it is called heet. Getting it in is a slight problem. My engine has a "mason" type plastic bottle near air compressor. If you don't, you will have to disconnect the large air line from compressor and pour into system, Not into compressor. I hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 02:51:29 PM »

I should mention, give us more info as to type of bus, engine type, age, dec or not. This would help with diagnoses. Later.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 02:55:12 PM »

Wayne, you have 4 tanks and they have auto drains which never work so you may have to remove those to drain the tanks.
Check the battery door on the drivers side and the air dryer should be there on your model 10 if all else fails build the air up and listen if it pops off you have a dryer in there somewhere but with Eagle you never know where they put it, service it and make sure you have power and it should be good to go.  
Clean the breather on the foot pedal also
Call if you need help I'll be glad to help you for a pheasant LOL I don't have pheasants but plenty of quail here  


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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 04:16:45 PM »

Wal,

Just be careful if you have a AD9 dryer. Ours, at least, has a heater in it. I know of a bus that burned to the ground, because they added alcohol to the lines, it hit the heater, and it burned.

MCI tech support has told me, if you have to add alcohol, add it after the dryer (it seems to me that the dryer would remove it anyways).

FWIW

Hope you get rolling...

Oh, yes. Have you replaced the cartridge in the dryer? If not, I would start there, then dry out all of the lines.

God bless,

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 07:11:15 PM »

I just talked with Clifford, He got it going.

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 10:28:04 PM »

Good Old Clifford Even WORKING On His Birthday..WHAT A GUY.

Happy Birthday...One More Time....

Now Get Back To Work. Cheesy

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 08:22:54 AM »

What was the final on what occured?Inquiring minds and all that Wink
 Glad you are goig again Wayne Grin
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 08:52:22 AM »

What was the final on what occured?Inquiring minds and all that Wink
 Glad you are goig again Wayne Grin

Ever notice we never get the low down on what fixed 'm and got them going on these break down threads?
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 08:58:20 AM »

Clifford said he thought it was an ice buildup, not sure where though.

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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 09:02:11 AM »

Clifford said he thought it was an ice buildup, not sure where though.

Paul

Thanks Paul! But in my twisted little mind, I always thought it'd be nice of the person who had the problem to update folks afterwords so we ALL could learn a little more as we read what worked or didn't for others!
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 09:07:47 AM »

Guys, I am sure Wayne will post the out come of the problem he has more important things to do today before working on his bus would you rather freeze your @$# off hunting pheasant or working on the bus I vote for the pheasant LOL   


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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2009, 09:10:24 AM »

If he's going to freeze his @$# off, I'm sure he'll be using some antifreeze so he won't get too cold on the upper half!

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2009, 09:23:31 AM »

Guys, I am sure Wayne will post the out come of the problem he has more important things to do today before working on his bus would you rather freeze your @$# off hunting pheasant or working on the bus I vote for the pheasant LOL   
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Clifford, I don't do much hunting anymore! (too fat!)
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2009, 12:50:15 PM »

Clifford;

It'd rather freeze my @$# off chasing tail feathers then them dark ugly shapes under the bus. One thing about it though is you can always climb back into the bus to warm up a little if you working on it.

Paul got to watch that antifreeze and gun powder it has a way of biting you back.

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2009, 12:56:38 PM »

If he's going to freeze his @$# off, I'm sure he'll be using some antifreeze so he won't get too cold on the upper half!

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2009, 01:14:48 PM »

If he's going to freeze his @$# off, I'm sure he'll be using some antifreeze so he won't get too cold on the upper half!

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2009, 07:31:55 PM »

    " Now that was funny, I don't care who ya are! "

   Paul, Isn't that Larry the cable guy's favorite line. Better watch out he might charge you royalties !!! Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2009, 08:11:35 PM »

I guess I could have said, "Git 'er done". But it just didn't seem to fit! Grin

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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2009, 07:47:04 AM »

Wow what a journey to remember and I do mean remember for reasons of safety.  Luvrbus I can't thank you enough for the advice on the road. 

I believe it was a combination of things but the cold was ultimately responsible for it all.  As Luvrbus said the exhaut baffle at the pedal was frozen almost shut and not allowing the pressure operating the throttle to exhaut, thus keeping the bus at full throttle.  Not fun, AT ALL!!!  From Oklahoma City to Ponce I had to roll at 45 and 50 MPH to get where I was going.  When traffic got a little heavier I had to go slower than that.  At those speeds I was able to shut her down when I needed to.

The other problem was a grease zert on the mechanical arms on the opreating side of the pnuematic valve at the motor.  The grease was frozen and looked like bee's wax.  THe zert itself had not been serviced for so long the zert would not allow new grease to be injected.  THe grease inside the mechanical arm had to be locked up.

So to fix it we had one guy on a grease gun and me with metal rod to activate the arm back and forth because I could not get my arm in there to move it.  It took a while of working it back and forth but eventually we got it where the return spring would get it back to after it was released.

So we think we go the water out and the the probelms over I fire up and off we go.  I get a half mile and realize one of the brakes was locked.  I shut it down again and we get to work and were looking for a an access to get alcohol in it and then I decided to try something.  I popped off the parking brake and pumped the brake pedal.  It was still locked.  I tried it several times and the light went out.  I rolled it forward and popped it in nutral and it continued to roll with no brakes applied.  Boom we shot out of Ponca City and headed home.

I was headed for the Texas panhandle this weekend but I can't get the bus ready in that time frame so I have to leave it behind this week and stay in a nasty hotel.  I will not be headed anywhere in the north country until I get everything in the brakes cleaned peoperly, the dryer working ect.

It is good this experience happened to me.  I am new to bus ownership and I am very cautious.  You really have no clue of how vulnerable you are until your riding 38,000 pounds at 65 MPH and it sticks at that throttle speed in the middle of Oklahoma City traffic.  I can say this, the next thing I need to fix is the fabric on the driver seat Shocked

I thank you all for your help, this is a great site!!
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2009, 07:51:59 AM »

Oh and yes we shot good birds.  The roosters were a plenty but very very jumpy for the opening week of pheasant hunting.  They were busting up at about 50 to 60 yards which would put them at 70 or 80 yards out before you could get on them.  Too far to shoot.  We all got a rooster and some of us 2 or 3 and the guy we went with got a 12 point buck while waiting for us on a fence line drive.  The buck had 12 remaining points and 1 broken off time which would have put him at 13 points.  I am from Texas and the deer here are small.  This thing was a freakin moose of a deer.  I didn't know whitetails got that big.  If I can figure out how to post a pic I will post them.  Here at work they blocked photobucket. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2009, 02:34:48 PM »

Thanks for the update.

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