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« on: January 02, 2010, 04:19:59 PM »

Hey all you PD4501 types, there is one listed on C/L in the "High Desert" area of SoCal
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rvs/1529382256.html

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 06:09:02 PM »

Good work. Thanks for the heads-up. I put a call in for further info and serial number for my roster.

Tom McNally
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 10:21:50 PM »

Spoke to owner:

PD4501-670
Florida Greyhound Lines F-736
Southeastern Greyhound Lines M-230
Southeastern Greyhound Lines M-5509
Southern Greyhound Lines 5509
Former Combo Bus #0910
Conversion Project (2005)
     Owner: Daniel Shoun  --  Apple Valley, California
        Former combo bus, still has cargo door at right rear.
        Current owner has had bus for several years. Rough shape.
        Conversion begun, will need lots of TLC to complete. Needs tire. Original restroom intact. lower purse racks intact. uppers gone.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 06:53:27 AM »

Thanks Tom For The Info On This Old Girl..

One Of These Days I Have To Find A Spot In My Yard For One.

Old Love.....

Anymore Pictures Huh

JOHN

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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 08:02:11 AM »

JOhn, you will find that one is NEVER enough! Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 10:35:48 AM »

I just received two photos from John Vickers that he took in Conroe, TX back in 1991 of PD4501-670 at a old car swap/ flee market.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 11:04:15 AM »

Looks like he scraped up against a tree, and the current owner hasn't done anything to fix it.  Since he didn't put in an interior shot, I wonder what that "70% converted" means.  My guess is that it's got a table and an air mattress.  Anyone who suggests that a "converted" coach can be "restored to Greyhound" is saying that there really hasn't been a lot done to it.

I think he's after about twice what it's worth.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 12:04:23 PM »

Tom, stupid question...what is a combo bus (passengers and freight?) and what about the door...is that it in the 1991 photo (kinda hard to see)?
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 12:23:03 PM »

I'll take that last question.
A 'Combo car' as they were called had a partition on the top deck which allowed a certain number of seats ahead of it and freight behind it.  There was a loading door at the right rear and if I remember correctly it had a roller type thing that helped in the loading of freight.
Remember that before UPS, FedEx and such! most shipping like that was done on the dog!  Toward the end of the Scenicruiser days with Greyhound they converted I think about 20 or so to Combo's.  (Is that right Tom?)
I know a guy in Detroit that can name them off by number!
Jack

And yes, the combo door is in the first photo at the right rear.  They had to modify the last window to make it work.
The first on I saw was on the bus in the last post Tom made, the Band Bus.
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 12:56:12 PM »

Sooo...should one assume that this is "driveable" on the highway? Nevermind, that is really a dumb question. Just need to remind myself that something like this IS NOT driveable and should be lowboy'd home.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 05:48:33 PM »

Jack

You are correct on the Combo car description. I can't remember for sure the total number they converted to Combo. I have all the combo fleet numbers in my roster, but never bothered to count em all. My guess would be somewhere between 50 and 100.

As for driving 670. I would not hesitate for a minute if it starts and runs good, and has decent brakes. It would probably need some tires, and the normal maintenance issues caught up. Check/ change fluids. Radiator check. etc. etc. I would allow plenty of prep. time before I took off, and take along plenty of tools and parts and a good credit card!

I guess it all depends on your comfort level and past experience. Some folks think it's plain crazy to ever leave the driveway in anything other than a brand new vehicle. When you play the old bus game, you gotta be a believer!

Tom McNally
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 07:28:02 PM »

I've driven the worst of them, so I have a clear understanding of what you are sayin'! I've plenty of tires/wheels so that part is not a problem. Probably spend more time loading stuff up in a service/chase vehicle than actually working on it!

I've got a couple of trips to SoCal planned later this year, so I'll keep the contact information and maybe take a look
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 07:42:42 PM »

Jack fwiw Greyhound had a lot of the MCI 7 combo units.
I think that is the bus that replaced the 4501 combo. 



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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2010, 07:52:36 PM »



     There are two for sale here in the Indianapolis , In. area.  One has a new 8v-92 with a 13 spd roadranger.


     Owner wants $12,000.00


     Steve 5B....


  BTW.  I have nothing to do with this, just passing it along.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2010, 08:26:28 PM »

Someday I Want To Have A Scenicruiser.. Who Says You Cant Have Em All Grin

I Have Always Loved These GM Buses. Heck All I Need Is More Money. Space Is Not An Issue Any Longer. So Who Knows.......... SOMEDAY.

Pictures...We Need More Pictures !!!!

Major Bus Nut..Needing TREATMENT..... Shocked

MR Breeze  KPH5491  10-10 And On The Side.
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