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Author Topic: What is it with the little cars? Do they really want to get squashed?  (Read 2317 times)
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« on: February 11, 2010, 08:56:46 PM »

What is up with these little vehicles? I don't think some of these drivers have all their marbles. Today going through LA (not even rush hour traffic). A little idiot decided to dive over in front of us (we were maintain our distance) to try to make an exit. The problem was the exit was backed up. This feller decided to stop in our lane. It took full service brake application (I am glad our brakes are in top notch condition), jakes, and transmission retarder, to barely stop in time. And, I am telling you, we were all glad that we had our seatbelts on. Otherwise there would have been an issue.

Of course, that was probably the longest time we have sat on the air horn. If we wouldn't have had the distance in front of us, we would have squashed him. That guy should be really blessed that our brakes were functioning so well.

Do people like that think that if they cut in front of a large bus, and stop, do they really think that we can stop as fast as them? Do they really realize that they are the real losers? 

That just shows how we need to have really good driving habits. I think it all comes down to good driving habits, and having your coach in good condition.

Anyways, sorry for the rant.

God bless,

John
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 09:18:05 PM »

In my opinion the problem is that too many car drivers don't think, period.  They relagate driving to the reflex part of their brain and the rest of their mind is doing something entirely different.  Then all of a sudden they realize "oh, there's my exit", and whoosh, without the slightest awareness of their surroundings or conscious thought of the dangers, they make their move.

Often times it works for them because of the skill and alertness of other drivers, and other times it results in their final 15 minutes of fame on the evening news.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 09:37:06 PM »

John -

Many drivers, when they climb behind the steering wheel, end up sitting on their brains. 

Saw it time and time again as a professional driver.

Still see it running around town on a daily basis with my current business.

And if you would have stopped in Fresno on your way down the Valley, I'd have told you some good war stories about idiot drivers over a Pepsi.

Glad you avoided having to use the energy bumper on the front of your MCI.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 10:05:11 PM »

Yup, Mike, you are right...Beats me...lol.

RJ, we would have loved to stop by. But, I-5 is SO much better then 99...sorry Grin. I am sure we will be in your neck of the woods sometime. I am sure you have seen your share of the drivers. The guy that wanted to check out our bumper (really badly), didn't have all his marbles in one place. I am not sure where he left them, but they weren't in the car with him.

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 05:02:49 AM »

   Most driver's have never driven anything larger than a standard sized car and do not have a clue how much distance is needed to stop a heavy vehicle. They think all vehicles can stop in the same distance as their small car.  Another reason to maintain a big gap in front of you.  Jack
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 05:15:07 AM »

Your preaching to the chior..Glad you didn't swap paint...safe driving....Bob
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 05:16:29 AM »

It just goes to prove that not all of this country's idiots are elected!!! Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 06:49:12 AM »

I have had cars squeal their tires to pull out in front of my bus.  They don't want to be behind a "slow" bus you know.  It is going to cost them a lot more than an extra 15 or 30 seconds when my bus demolishes their car.

I don't like being behind city buses either, but I sure as heck am not going to pull out in front of one either.  The stupid traffic engineers around here designed roads where only one lane of an interstate continues on.  I've ended up not getting over into that lane during rush hour a number of times because I simply won't pull into a trucker's buffer zone.  There is a reason why he (or she) is not riding the bumper of the vehicle ahead of them.  Many drivers don't understand this.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 07:08:40 AM »

It's a shame that it would have hurt your bus to take that set of genes out of the pool.  They are no doubt defective. Wink

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 07:33:28 AM »

As i have said many times, let them sit in the driver's seat of a rig, or a bus, just for a moment to see why they need to have a little more respect for our size. Mind you, some of them do it on purpose, believing you have good insurance.

When I work with the students, they get to sit behind the wheel of the bus we are converting (in a vacant lot) while the bus is just rolling at idle - then they alloy the brakes. When they feel the weight, and the time needed to stop, they have a different perspective about pulling in front of big vehicles in their own roller skate.

Glad you were kept safe through this one - someone you almost met's life must have another purpose, I guess !!
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 08:21:44 AM »

Before I add my 2 centavos to this thread, just let me say that I feel sorry for the victims involved in the vehicle accidents where brakes fail and accelerators stick, but how does someone manage to call 911 and talk for almost 10 minutes with a dispatcher and no one considers putting the vehicle in NUETRAL? Is it just me? Huh  I had a dumptruck accelerator pedal stick one time going through a small town where I grew up many years ago. I was just a young kid, but even then, I had sense enough to jam it out of gear (didn't even use the clutch) and turn off the ignition to save the engine. Someone said not all idiots are in office, SO TRUE!
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010, 01:37:50 PM »

Vnfortnately (I jvst lost the yoo on my keyboard - v=yoo), no matter how stvpid they were, yov wovld have been charged in the accident, and wovld have been fighting the charges for years.  Glad it was all OK.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010, 01:47:02 PM »

Aren't you glad that yovr is "Len" and not "Yvri."

I am sorry, I covldn't read yovr post withovt chvckling. How did you loose yovr key? Check yovr keychain. lol

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 01:52:05 PM »

Il could be worse. I losl my...key. I can'l figure oul how lo phonelicly say il. lol

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2010, 02:01:05 PM »

That is a very sad trvth Len.   (tip for U - hold down the alt key and type 085 on the numeric pad to get a upper case 'U" or alt 117 to get a lower case "u", assuming your keyboard has a numeric pad)

Back to the sad truth.  That has been the case all along that the one hitting from the rear is at fault.  But I wonder if that might be getting a closer look by law enforcement lately. It seems like a lot of signs going up on the interstates cautioning against lane changing into the buffer space in front of trucks.  If the laws are changing, it sure would be nice to see some people getting pulled over and ticketed when officers see them do that.
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2010, 02:02:18 PM »

John,

The good Lord watches out for fools and idiots. I thought you knew that.

A big ditto on what everyone has said. On Wednesday coming home from work I broke a valve spring in my wife's minivan (my bad!). I had to get wrecker service and am I ever thankful I got the one that showed up. On the way back down a four lane divided highway with at grade crossings and driveways, some fool or idiot did not see the wrecker, yes he had a full compliment of emergency lights flashing, and pulled into the number 2 lane from a driveway at a median crossover. The wrecker driver saw the car moving toward the road so he made a courtesy chnage of lanes to the number 1 lane. Well the car just kept coming and the wrecker driver then went to the inside shoulder before the fool or idiot realized, Gee there is a wrecker I'd best stop NOW!. If they had not stopped I could easily see a wrecker on its side with maybe the wife's minivan being slung across the other lanes and of course creating one mell of a hess.

Thank you Maurice for being such a great driver!
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 03:00:54 PM »

Back to the sad truth.  That has been the case all along that the one hitting from the rear is at fault.  But I wonder if that might be getting a closer look by law enforcement lately. It seems like a lot of signs going up on the interstates cautioning against lane changing into the buffer space in front of trucks.  If the laws are changing, it sure would be nice to see some people getting pulled over and ticketed when officers see them do that.


Even tho I'm retired from the industry, I still receive most of the trade magazines. 

As some of you are aware, nearly all transit systems, and many skoolie operators, now have video recorders on their equipment - mostly for passenger monitoring, but some are also equipped with an additional camera focused on the road ahead.

I seem to remember reading recently that a charter bus outfit based, I think, in WA, had such a system onboard one of their MCIs that was involved in a rear-end collision similar to what John almost experienced.  Altho the WHP initially cited the bus driver, subsequent review of the video, both by the HP and the bus company's insurance carrier, showed that the vehicle the bus struck was, in fact, the cause of the accident.

So, one might consider installing a similar system to, literally, CYA!

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 06:24:15 PM »

Our Defensive Driving class instructor at work mentioned that he had such a system in his personal car, and his car insurance extorter provider gave him a useful discount on his premium.   Has anyone here heard of such a system, which presumably could be used in our buses as well as our cars?   It sounds like a good idea to me  -  I've got nothing to hide when I drive, and I always try to think of what the police would say of my driving if I were ever in an accident.   In the meantime, maybe a REALLY LOUD horn is a good idea to wake up those denizens of the shallow end of the gene pool.

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 07:35:31 PM »

I have decided to install four cameras on my coach. The cops use cameras to record everything as evidence, but because it seems to be advertised that "big rigs cause too many accidents", sometimes I feel like I need the same evidential protection as the cops do.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2010, 09:03:32 PM »

In all honesty just be glad you are in something BIG. I've ridden motorcycles for eons and it never fails that someone does something stupid in front or behind you constantly. I once had a car turn left in front of me that caused me to lock em up and I just missed her as she turned into a gas station. She was on her cell phone!!! Broad daylight! I was on my noisy  Grin bad bike and all leathered up, the typical biker look, and went about a block and decided to turn around and scared the crap out of her. I pulled up to the pump beside her and saw the terror in her eyes but she still had the phone. She's saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't see you!! I told her the names of my 3 grandaughters and how lucky she was that she didn't have to tell them that! Then I called her a stupid ffing batch! Probably wasn't the correct thing to do but my pulse was still sky high. At least with a bus they can't say "I never saw him"!!
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2010, 06:52:33 AM »

Let me tell you about the one who didn't see me (in my bus). It is about not paying attention / thinking !!
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2010, 07:05:42 AM »

Chopper Scott,

Cycles to Buses, some chicks just don't get it. We had our rub rail on the entry door swiped by some bingbat from East Stroudsburg PA while in a construction zone in NJ. Fortunately we had a camera at the ready since I took photos of the rock shot and had passed it to the wife. The wife took photos of the car as it drove away. The bingbat finally stopped after seeing she was being photographed.

I too had the same experience as you on a motorcycle. Only difference was the woman pulled out from a side street. I locked the rear wheel solid and squeezed the front as hard as I could. The front did not lock but the back did, which made back of the bike try to pass the front. I turned loose of the rear brake and got the bike stopped - right in front of her radiator. If she had not realized what she was doing (this was BCP - Before Cell Phones) the outcome would have been ugly. Since I was stopped I threw down the kick stand, went over to her window, took off the helmet and slammed it down on her hood. I then proceeded to give her an education about being on the look out for motorcycles. She went white as a ghost.
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