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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 07:06:58 PM »

Don't forget the ugly a** bumpers 


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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 07:29:49 PM »

So I understand the differences about the NJTs, I assume they were all 20s? How about the rest of the 20s and 10s...how does one recognize them apart?
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2010, 07:33:46 PM »

How could I forget those? haha... Yeah, those need to be replaced too to get the true Eagle look.. But those weren't only NJTs. Those came on lots of Eagle transit buses.

Dave, 20s had the tall windshields like the 15s, and no vertical space on the cap above the windshield.  If you see a 96" bus where the windshield goes all the way up to the slop of the cap, it is most likely a 20.

Notice the top of the windshield... First picture is a 1988 Model 20. Windshield goes all the way up to the slope.


Notice the top of the windshield again. Vertical space above windshield before slope. This is a Model 10. Model 10s may have windows, window indentations , or none, depending on how they have been modified. Most 20s were just solid on the slope.
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2010, 07:54:30 PM »

Dave notice the side windows on the 20 they were a bonded window and all open from the bottom very nice windows for a conversion.
No matter what Dale says the NJT won the ugliest Eagle ever made hand downs no contest there they made the transit bumpers even look worse  lol



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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2010, 08:26:37 PM »

Thank you, with the pictures and explanation it becomes very clear. Sent in my Eagle forum registration tonight, so let's see if it hatches...after all, I don't even have a bus, let alone an Eagle!

Thanks again, really.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2010, 09:34:57 PM »

Hey now! I'm not denying it, Clifford. The NJT Eagle in stock form is UGLY! But so is the NJT MC9.... You can't do much with that big destination sign to make it look good.

I just figure I can add caps and change bumpers easier than I can raise the driver and find pantograph doors and such.

I just approved you over on EI, Dave. Come on over and look around.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2010, 10:09:03 PM »

No problem - Eagle people are easily fooled ...... on the way to crash the party in Branson ..... stopped and got a magnetic Eagle to stick on the front of the coach ...... my bad ...... won't stick to carbon fiber ..... a few pieces of duct tape later ..... they never noticed ..... If they did ..... they never said ..... on second thought, maybe they're just polite enough not to mention it  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2010, 01:31:01 AM »

So what model is 102 inches wide as opposed to the 96 that has been mentioned as 10, 15, 20 and NJT20?  Must be a wide one in here somewhere.  Great discussion on the models though....thanks


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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2010, 03:55:54 AM »

The Model 15 Eagle is 102 inch wide.
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2010, 05:35:19 AM »

JohnEd, the model 07 was the only Eagle built that was 102 w from bumper to bumper they were built in 1969 and 70 around 45 units were built
The model 15 has a taper on the front it becomes a 102 w past the drivers area.


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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2010, 05:36:34 AM »

As Dan said, the Model 15 is what most people think of when they think of a 102" Eagle. But the 'true' 102" Eagle was the Model 07 that was only built back in 69/70. It was 102' from front to rear. The Model 15 is 96" in the front and tapers back to 102" right behind the driver. So it uses the same windshields as the Model 20.

**Dang! Clifford beat me to it!
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2010, 06:27:06 AM »

Guys, all this talk of iggles has got me looking out at the driveway again, there sits my old iggle, all forlorn and lonesome, I even went out yesterday and talked to it a little, from the condensation on the window I think it was happy to see me.  My daughter wants me to build her one, and it would probably be not that hard after wading thru all the tanks, and stuff I've got piled up around, inside and behind the garage, and it would be good company for my iggle but then I come back to reality and look at the check book lol, not a pretty sight, maybe I'll just take a picture of one and give it to her lol.  Being retired with 2 kids in medical school is enough of a lesson in reality for me right now lol.
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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2010, 08:17:40 AM »

Personally, I don't see it an issue at all to taper from 96 to 102 behind the driver. That is the way that the MCI's, that I know of, are built. They are all tapered.

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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2010, 08:25:59 AM »

I don't see it as an issue either, John. It just makes good sense so that the company only had to produce one size windshield, one size bumper, etc. And it makes it easier on us now trying to find parts for older buses that aren't made any more. The Model 07 guys have a tough time trying to find a windshield to fit their bus.
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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2010, 08:36:53 AM »

Not a problem for the 07 Dale most of the 07's have had 10 front clip added Jim Smiths 07 is about the only one left that hasn't been modified with the 96 inch front clip and he has redone his to accept the 05- 10 windshields 

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