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« on: April 02, 2010, 09:36:03 AM »

Just wondering if anyone knows when SOC (statement of compliance) labels were first put on buses?
Also when did the GVWR, etc start to show up on plaques or stickers?  I was wondering when this information became the "standard" for manufacturers to display.
 This is all I can find for a 1965.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 10:13:49 AM »

I don't know whether this is an American thing or not, but I notice it's on a European-built bus (early Eagle?). If it helps, the European equivalent now is known as a COIF (Certificate Of Initial Fitness).

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 10:26:46 AM »

To be brought into Canada without a Certificate of Compliance a bus must be built prior to Jan. 1st 1971.  So many of these standards are implemented at the same time in both countries.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 12:15:19 PM »

Tim, it came out in 1972 on the 05 Eagles but Trailways renumbered some of the older 05 to the SOC tag, and it wasn't on the 69-70 model 07 Eagle either


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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 12:49:11 PM »

Hey Tim,

It looks like ours does, except your looks nicer. That's the only ID plate I've found.



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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 01:11:44 PM »

Paul, I believe the one Tim is searching for list the GVW and the gross axle weight and with the words meet all Federal safety standards at the date of manufacture.
Canada never wanted Eagles there to compete with Prevost and MCI some outfit there bought I think 14 model 15's and never could get the paper work right and they came back here to the USA in a short time


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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 03:33:58 PM »

Thanks all, that's the info I was looking for, especially the years (thanks Clifford)
Paul, I noticed yours says it meets all federal standards at the time of manufacture, so they must have started adding that statement sometime between 65 and 67.
Does anyone have any old labels, plaques from scrapped out Eagles that they would be willing to part with?
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2010, 05:27:21 PM »

I noticed several of you have remounted your VIN plates.  Isn't it technically against some federal law to remove these from the original mounting?

I actually have two of these plates that both have the VIN but slightly different types of info on each.  I agonized about if I should removed one of my plates that was in my way, but the other one is still mounted as original.
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 07:35:20 PM »

Mine was not even mounted when I got the coach, so who knows where it was originally. Possibly in the old style front cap, not sure.

At least it's better than where it was which was not mounted. Wink

Tim, I guess I should have enlarged the photo you posted. I see now how ours is different. I believe that a lot of those Federal Standards were required for 1968 models in all vehicles. I do know that was the first year for a lot of those requirements. So your model year would be exempt.
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 08:23:48 PM »

Wonder what they mean by safety standards the 01 and the early 05 Eagles had the worst brakes of any bus built.
I can not find the standards anywhere on the net could not of been much in the 60's and 70's.   



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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 08:55:24 PM »

Here is some info for you Clifford. Although it might take you several years to read it. Wink

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/fmvss/index.html
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 09:05:01 PM »

Found that one Paul but most of it is for 10,000lbs or less

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 09:16:04 PM »

I'm sure there is a lot more, just have to dig for it.

I remember 1968 was a major change in Fed Stds because I when I was restoring Austin Healey's 1967 was the last year it could be brought into the US. I had the honor and privledge to meet and speak with Donald Healey. He commented on how he went to the Queen of England asking for a 1 million dollar loan so he could meet the standards and she turned him down. They had made 3 1968 3000 hard top coupes, Datsun bought one, disected and and the result was the Datsun 240Z.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 10:22:17 PM »

Interesting info Paul. I guess that's why the L28 from a 280Z fit so nicely into the 100/6 I was building years ago!!!
  
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2010, 04:45:46 AM »

Very cool! Cool Do you still have it?

The similarities on the 3000 and 240Z are astounding! They widened the 3000 by 6", same SU carbs, battery placement etc.. The Austin Healey Worlwide Meet in SnowMass CO in 1982 was a sight to behold. They were still assmembling a 100S in a trailer just before the show opened for judging, it was from Australia. Oh the memories. My little 60 Bug Eye Sprite took 5th in the competition. We built three for the rally, plus a Mark III. Geoffrey and Margo Healey were there, which was pretty neat. The Bug Eye was Donald's favorite car, after going for a short ride with me he said, "You need a bigger car" with a smile on his face.
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