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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2010, 07:24:45 AM »

The picture of the gasket does not show how huge it is.
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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2010, 08:17:05 AM »

Another thought..measure top to bottom on each side and run a grid to see if they (the openings)are the same for both sides..Take a measurement move in 6 inches and compare to right and left side..run a grid and compare top to bottom and side to side and middle to each side should let you know if they are equal in openings...or mabe another bus nut could give you some measurements from his coach..like yours...wish I were closer to help out..Bob
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2010, 11:01:54 AM »

Arrrgghh, Ruthi.

I know somewhat what you are going through. We struggled with ours a ton. I am sure you all have tried this...but, have you let the gasket sit out in the sun for a while to let it get good and hot? I assume that you are using plenty of dishsoap. And, I assume that you are also very frustrated Wink.

Those windshields can be a PAIN to install. Ours took us a full day, and I thought that took a long time. I guess not. It is a kinda interesting idea to consider making it a glue in. Anybody have any idea why they don't have glue in's on the buses?

Sorry to hear about the troubles, Ruthi. If I was close to you, I would come over on the weekend and help you out.

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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2010, 11:22:00 AM »

Arrrgghh, Ruthi.

 It is a kinda interesting idea to consider making it a glue in. Anybody have any idea why they don't have glue in's on the buses?

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John.
   I think the reason they do not glue in bus windshields is that the windshielsds have to be able to move in the gaskets when the bus body flexes to prevent the windshields from cracking.
    I know a busnut in SC that put 1 piece fiberglass sides on his Eagle. When he pulled out onto the road, he heard a loud pop. Friends said his one front wheel was offthe ground about 1' until the pop. These big apparently flax quite a bit.  Jack
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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2010, 11:32:03 AM »

I know you are getting all kinds of opinions and help from the guys here. I was thinking this. Because you are having so many problems installing them this time, it might behoove you to take your time to find a way to make it easier. If there ever is a next time it might save the frustration on the next install, and save it for something easier to deal with.

I agree with Jack on the flexing issue. These buses are so big and long, with large pieces of glass they will need to move. Not only according to flex, but temperatures also.

I really feel for ya! Cry

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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2010, 11:43:21 AM »

Taking the bus somewhere is not going to solve the problem. These guys are very professional. I dont know what we are going to do, we are totaly bum fuzzled. We thought the gluing them in was the answer with the butle, with the windshield sitting on rubber blocks, and trimmed with rubber.  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh UGGGGGHHHH  The guys were telling us that a lot of motor homes have glued in windshields. They had just come from doing one. So, why would that not work on the bus?
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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2010, 11:45:24 AM »

Maybe we need a windshield party, and invite all Grin
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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2010, 11:47:29 AM »

another thought. After thinking about it, a little late, with that gasket, there is no way we could build the tv and cabinets up top at the front. The way it is now, you have to work it from the inside and out.
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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2010, 12:06:44 PM »

Ruthi

How about 100 mph duct tape  Cheesy Cheesy I am sure Ken will never reach those speeds, lol

Just kidding. Hope you laughed anyway  Grin

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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2010, 12:11:12 PM »

Buses do flex a lot I watched a guy in Quartzsite showing off his new Big Foot hyd levelers to people on a 102 MCI and I tried to tell him to put all four down before starting the level process and he informed me he had a MCI not a rusty Eagle.
 I then stood back and watched as he popped both windshields and bent his entry door broke both windshields when they hit ground.
I knew it would happen because I popped one from of my Eagle before learning a lesson.lol  



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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2010, 12:49:21 PM »

Ruthi,
What bodywork does your Dina have?   Is it Dina's own body, or is it a Marco Polo or Irizar or whatever?   I'm just wondering if there may be any other options for your windshields.   How close are you to Mexico?   (Broken windshields are not uncommon on Mexican buses, so there may be some resources south of the border you could tap into, at least to get advice or to obtain gaskets.)
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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2010, 12:56:55 PM »

I agree with the flexing but I'm not necessarily convinced that it's the reason windscreens are mounted in rubber (especially if some Class A's do have bonded windscreens - hard to imagine that a motorhome would flex less than a bus)

My bus has very large side windows which are bonded-in, but the windscreens (which are a similar size, possibly even smaller) are rubber mounted. The side windows are double-glazed units and hence probably tougher than the single-glazed windscreen though. Interestingly, my bus could be specified with either a single-piece or two piece windscreen. Presumably the customer made his choice by weighing-up the more modern appearance of a single-piece screen against the higher cost of replacing it in the future.

Back on the flexing issue - when I was looking at buses I went to a dealer to look at his stock and get advice. I remember in particular him telling me ''You'd be better off getting a bus with a chassis, son - monocoque buses are all very well, but you need to know what you are doing. Jack one up in the wrong place and the windscreen will fall out".

Jeremy

[Written before I read lurbus' similar comment about windscreens falling out]

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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2010, 01:04:31 PM »

Clifford,

I have read that breaking windshields is an issue with 4 point leveling, and it is therefore better to have just one foot in front.  Is that the case?
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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2010, 01:36:36 PM »

Ruthi,
What bodywork does your Dina have?   Is it Dina's own body, or is it a Marco Polo or Irizar or whatever?   I'm just wondering if there may be any other options for your windshields.   How close are you to Mexico?   (Broken windshields are not uncommon on Mexican buses, so there may be some resources south of the border you could tap into, at least to get advice or to obtain gaskets.)

The body is actually made by Marco Polo out of Brazil.  The first set of replacement windshields for my Dina said Made in Brazil (in spanish) on them.  When I hit the goose last year I needed another windshield and the new one is made for MCI by someone.
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