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« on: May 18, 2010, 07:59:03 PM »


Help save my weekend After a long winter we are heading out this weekend,or at least trying to. I went to run my gen set for a trail run. Oil is fine, coolant level is good so I fired it up. Ran fine with. Battery charger running at a 30 amp draw, so I fired up the A/C. I could hear the gen set working then it just shut down. I can't get it to even turn over. Like I said the fluid levels are fine, I have replaced the fuses. It is getting a full 14 volts and the fuel pump and choke are working. It did smell warm when it shut down. Is this thing shot? Has 134 hours on it..Help pls
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 08:31:33 PM »



Here"s from google.

http://www.poweredgenerators.com/honda/manuals/32ZB5614.pdf

there are some reviews on it too.





Being from this neck of the woods too, how old is the gas?  was it in there all winter?  Smell it and see if it smells kinda varnishy like? Huh
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 06:13:13 AM »

I can't get it to even turn over. Like I said the fluid levels are fine,

Can you turn the engine over by hand?  If not,it sounds like an internal problem. If you can turn it over by hand, I would check starting circuit (battery, connections, switches, etc.)  Jack
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:56:41 AM »

Thanks Jack, kind of a pain because of the way it's mounted. I'll have to pull the whole unit out, but I suppose that's what I'll have to do
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 08:16:35 AM »

Have you tried monitoring the voltage at the battery while you attempt to start it?  If it is locked up you should see a big voltage drop when the starter engages.  If its an electrical problem you won't likely see that. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 11:49:39 AM »

good thinking Bob, I actually pulled it out and it turns freely. The Honda dealer figures it could be the stator and possibly the control box. These parts run at close to $1000.00 a piece plus labour. So I suppose this thing is a paper weight or maybe more like a boat anchor.  So I will be buying a cheapy for the time being. I was going to buy a Honda 3000 as they are so quiet but as I was shopping arround I came across these Honda clones , brand name Kipor also a 3000 and also very quiet. Anyone heard of them?? 1/2 the price of the Honda.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 12:50:06 PM »

Grant,

If you have the AC on the same output as the batt chg it is way overloaded.

It the AC is on the separate AC 20 amp output you are at the very max output of the genset. If it was already pretty hot it was definitely maxed out.

I find that mine gets pretty hot when loaded with the bus stopped but keeps very cool when underway.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 01:33:25 PM »

The battery charger putting out 30 amps is only pulling about 3 amps off the generator.  I doubt that is the problem.

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 02:16:11 PM »

ev 6010 has it's own wires just for the ac...  the stator should be less than $100 on e bay as the ingition
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 10:01:06 AM »

Thanks guys, I don't think it was over loaded, as we have run the battery charger, A/C, microwave , hair dryer all at the same time on several occasions last summer with out any problems. What baffles me is that it doesn't even turn over when I hit the starter, and the motor is free.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 10:24:20 AM »

Busshawg, I have the 3000su and I cannot find the starting battery. It sounds like a battery or starter problem. Does it have a separate starter? Is voltage getting to starter, or does it reverse field on the genset to crank engine.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 11:07:49 AM »

The starting battery on mine is a external battery like a car battery. I haven't checked the voltage right at the starter, guess I should. I have 3 fuses that run in a row top to bottom and the top one keeps blowing. It just seems strange as it was running fine a just shut down as if I shut it off.
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 02:32:23 PM »

The top fuse (#1) is a 15 amp fuse DIRECTLY in line with the STARTER.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2010, 05:40:09 AM »

Hi Busshawg,

It you still need help, give these folks a call.

Hicklin Power Systems
5503 NW 111th Drive
Grimes, Iowa  50111

800 234 eight nine eight nine

dale@hicklinpower.com

I bought my EV6010 from them and, have found them to be very helpful when in need of information and/or trouble shooting.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2010, 02:12:21 PM »

Thanks again guys
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2010, 07:28:59 PM »

Just a quick thought also. Do you have a remote start? Something to check. Later
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 07:56:54 AM »

I do have a remote start but unplugged it right at the control box. I think this will turn into a winter project. I bought a cheap gen set to keep us going but can already tell it runs warmer than what I'd like it to in my former A/C conderser compartment
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 06:01:57 PM »

Hi Busshawg,

It you still need help, give these folks a call.

Hicklin Power Systems
5503 NW 111th Drive
Grimes, Iowa  50111

800 234 eight nine eight nine

dale@hicklinpower.com


I bought my EV6010 from them and, have found them to be very helpful when in need of information and/or trouble shooting.


 By all means call Hicklin power. Customer service second to none, the manager spent 45 minutes on the phone with me to help with a problem!!  If you want to buy a Honda by it from Hicklin!!     JIm
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 12:19:10 PM »

Len,

Good point, I misread his posting.

Grant,

It is a starting problem right now, not a gen problem. Very obvious if the starter fuse is blowing. Something is shorted out. Starter circuits are not that complicated so you can sort this out by the process of elimination.

How your dealer diagnosed a gen problem without starting the engine is a mystery?

It sounds as if the worst thing would be needing a new starter and there are a few much less expensive possibilities in the starting circuit.

EVs use separate starting batteries. I use both bus and house batteries, either will work because it is a small engine.

This is an excellent set and will probably outlast the cheapo substitute. Unless it has very high time it is well worth repairing.
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