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« on: July 06, 2010, 05:16:57 PM »

Anyone know were I can purchase aluminum rear wheels for my MCI 9.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 05:35:28 PM »

most just run them on outer dual..ck out simulators;ch out e-bay usually several used repolished there..if you going to run 12R22.5 I pretty sure you will need 9 inch wide wheels..Bob
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 05:47:36 PM »

I will definatly consider simulators. My biggest concern is buying a set of wheels or simulators that will fit correctly. If anyone can confirm fitment than I could sure use some help sourcing a set of wheels or simulators for my 82 MCI. For simplicity I maybe better off getting sims for I dont have to take bus in for remounting. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 05:49:34 PM »

9 inch alum wheels are premium price..simulators for bud wheels is what you want.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 05:58:03 PM »

There's a difference between Hub piloted wheels and stud piloted wheels. The trucks use the hub piloted type but our buses use the stud piloted type.

As always be sure of what you're buying before you spend your money.

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 06:07:41 PM »

We all will admit that the aluminum wheels look awesome but for cost amounts, durability and in all reality the simulators are probably the way to go. Do a search on the net or Ebay and see what you can find. Later
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 06:14:06 PM »

I don't know where you are but if you are anywhere near North Georgia, one of our Eagle buddies has a deal on some stud-pilot Peterbilt Ovals. He has eight of them and wants $150 each. You can see details here:
http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178&p=8916&hilit=wheels#p8916
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 06:23:55 PM »

I am not real keen on simulators, or any kind of covers, because you should be able to look at, and feel with your hand your wheels, so you can spot loose nuts, and hot hubs (bad bearings). So for me, it is either steel wheels, they can look quite nice painted your choice of color, or aluminum (Alcoa), in various stages of polish, or, in my case, neglect.

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 07:17:25 PM »

I bought a set of Alcoa wheels (size 22.5 X 8.25) from Youngstown Kenworth in Youngstown Ohio.  800-321-2056.  They will ship them.  If I remember correctly they were under $300 each. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 04:48:21 AM »

what size tires you running?(makes diff on rim width)I know where there is a stack of alum wheels,they would be 8.25 wide..would fit your bus ,they have 11R on them now..Bob
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 05:19:19 AM »

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I sent you a PM, the simulators I have should fit your wheels.

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 05:36:57 AM »

I don't know where you are but if you are anywhere near North Georgia, one of our Eagle buddies has a deal on some stud-pilot Peterbilt Ovals. He has eight of them and wants $150 each. You can see details here:
http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1178&p=8916&hilit=wheels#p8916


Yeah, but he won't split up the set. I wanted to buy 6 but he wouldn't sell me just 6. it was all of nothing.

interesting that he still has them.  that was several months ago.



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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 07:55:27 AM »

I guess I can see that. It's easier to sell a full set. Especially since they are the ovals. Not everyone is running them so ones and twos might be hard to get rid of. I don't know for sure he still has them. Last time I talked to him he did. But he is a truck driver so very rarely home.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 11:34:20 AM »

Nothing looks better and has easier upkeep than white painted steel wheels.

Al looks great but the cost and upkeep are not worth it.

Personal opinion, of course!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 11:43:30 AM »

I can get brand new powder coated wheels here in a few different  colours, Accuride, for $115 each.  I'm thinking black powercoat 5 hole wheels would look good!

No one mentioned studs.  you sometimes have to change the studs for aluminium wheels, although I think that if you run steel on the inside of stud centric Budd's the studs are OK, you may have to change to longer cones and different outer nuts.  something to find out for sure.

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 03:58:37 PM »

...if you going to run 12R22.5 I pretty sure you will need 9 inch wide wheels..


Not true.  Most 12R22.5 are approved on both 8.25" and 9" rims.  Most 11R22.5 are only approved on 8.25" rims and most 315/80R22.5 require the 9" wheels.  There are exceptions.  I personally have never seen a 12R22.5 that could not be mounted on either size rim; my coach came with them on 8.25" items but I later changed to 9" (when I changed to aluminum) so I could fit the 315 if I wanted to.

There's a difference between Hub piloted wheels and stud piloted wheels. The trucks use the hub piloted type but our buses use the stud piloted type.


Also not always true.  Many buses came with hub-pilot wheels, including late-model MCIs.  I believe there were years where MCI offered the customer a choice, so you could have an MCI with either stud or hub pilot wheels.  You actually have to check, rather than rely simply on year and model.

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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 04:25:33 PM »

? for the MCI people what wheels does the MCI use that have the 5 studded pilot and the 5 nuts that look like the hub pilot nuts that is a strange looking setup.
Sean Eagle also offered both types all the NJT were hub pilot.



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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 06:55:50 PM »

Can you tell what kind of pilot my wheels are from this pic. If not Ill get a better shot. In the automobile world we refer to hub centric. Wow I have alot to learn HaHa


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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 07:17:55 PM »

unless I'm wrong you lug nut are tapered as are you wheels where the lug nuts attach=bud or stud piloted wheels
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 08:45:28 PM »

Those aluminum ovals sure would look good all around that MCI.

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 09:18:28 PM »

Can you tell what kind of pilot my wheels are from this pic. ...


Impossible to tell from that photo, especially with those caps over the lug nuts.  Would need to see a close-up of the lug nuts with the caps off.

? for the MCI people what wheels does the MCI use that have the 5 studded pilot and the 5 nuts that look like the hub pilot nuts that is a strange looking setup.


Clifford, this was discussed on one of the boards a while back.  I don't remember the answer, neither could I find the thread with a quick search.  But I remember that there was a good explanation for it.  You might poke around in the archives.

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Sean Eagle also offered both types all the NJT were hub pilot.


That does not surprise me.  Fleet operators want to stick with one type of wheel, whichever style it is, and coach builders had to offer the choice to keep some of these customers.  All the more reason not to make any assumptions about wheel type and actually go out and check.

FWIW, I have never seen Budd-type wheel in European sizes, nor have I ever seen one on any Neoplan, Van Hool, or Setra.

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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 09:29:46 PM »

Easy to tell by looking at the drivers axle if you have a square head with a nut against the wheel on it those stud pilot wheels, the square nut holds the inner wheel and the 1 1/2 inch nut is for the outer wheel and they are left and right handed and will have marking L or R



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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2010, 02:48:53 PM »

I purchased mine from a truck salvage for $75.00@   4 were even polished they fit my mc8 with extended lug studs you can get from mci....you really need the longer one's....
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