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Author Topic: Video that demonstrates results of not swerving to avoid a stopped car in lane  (Read 4261 times)
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« on: July 26, 2010, 02:39:43 PM »

There was a thread last week that suggested a bus driver may have lost control by swerving to avoid a stopped SUV. The accident was tragic, with lives lost. I don't think the cause of the accident has been determined yet. It may well be that the driver did not swerve.

While on YouTube today I found a video that shows a shocking collision between a large truck and a car that was pulling over for a police stop. The video camera in the police car captured the truck/car collision. This is a horrible video to watch, as the car driver probably died.

The part of the video that is educational is that the truck didn't seem to be much affected by the collision, as it appears to continue straight and in control, at least until the short video ends.

Here's the video:

How not to pull over for a ticket


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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2010, 02:45:20 PM »

Did the trooper say>>  he's gone??

That was a impact!
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2010, 03:50:15 PM »

Near the end, the trooper says, "he's gone" and then at the very end the sound of big tires skidding-which tells me the truck driver was asleep and didn't put his brakes on well after the collision.  Sad.

P.S.-I just saw a video on the new Ford Police cruiser, and it can survive a 75mph rear end collision-now that's strong!  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 06:08:02 PM »

Glad them troopers are out there saving lives! fcol (for crying out loud).
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 07:28:41 PM »

We had several incidents when we came back from Florida last spring and almost every time it was a patrolman having someone pulled over. Strange thinking they are supposed to be making the road safer to drive. Instead they are causing hazards!
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 07:44:33 PM »

Well, from the trooper's standpoint the downside is he can not issue the car driver a citation, but on the upside he can give the truck driver a whopper.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 07:54:10 PM »

clearly the trooper wasn't happy the car was still in the travel lane. I'm of the opinion that cop is lucky to be alive.And sure glad he is , I might need to call him sometime, for help.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 08:19:13 PM »

Steve,

Absolutely true, but maybe the pullover policy needs to be reevaluated.  I have seen patrol cars with loud speakers so the officer can tell a driver to continue to the next exit or safe area.  It is questionable whether any freeway shoulder pullover is safe.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 03:38:38 AM »

I saw an incident on one of those TV police-chase programs where a police car tried to stop a car on a UK motorway, but instead of stopping the driver had continued to the next exit and stopped there. The comment from the police officer afterwards had been to the effect "he was perfectly within his rights to do that".

In this incident it's not good enough for the police officer to say "Get off the road!" to himself, while pulling his own car completely off the road and leaving the target car unprotected on the shoulder (which is, after all, supposed to be a safe place to stop). As has been said, I hope this tragic incident led to a major re-evaluation of police procedures

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 05:46:27 AM »

The car was almost off the road & traffic had room to pass IF they were centered in the travel lane.

The truck hit the car full square in the rear which means that the truck driver was no where near the center of the travel lane & obviously not in complete control of his vehicle.

I'm not a fan of random revenue enhancement backed up with deceitful lies attempting to justify it as a concern for public safety . . . BUT . . .
The cop had the good sense to leave a sizeable buffer between his car & traffic.
The car pulled over chose to park like they were at the grocery store.
The truck was not in the travel lane.

So, how is this anywhere near the cop's fault? Seems to me the logic placing blame on the cop is as flawed as placing all the blame on the car for speeding (or whatever it was that caused the police to pull them over.)

The car could have reduced his exposure to risk by pulling well off the road. The distraction of being pulled over is significant, but you need to continue to look out for your own safety.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 06:06:14 AM »

How many times have you seen a car pulled over on the shoulder of a hiway and it isn't all of the ways off of the road?  Seems like a lot of people have no concept of where their @$# end is. Grin  They think that if the front end of the car is off of the pavement that the rear must be off of it too.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 06:37:47 AM »

. . .  Seems like a lot of people have no concept of where their @$# end is. Grin  . . . .

Many also have no clue as to how big theirs is either.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2010, 06:39:25 AM »

Whilst I completely agree that the accident was caused by the actions of both the car driver and the truck driver, the point I was making is that it was the police officer's job to do his level best to protect the citizen who had (stupidly, perhaps) placed himself in harm's way as a result of following the officer's request to pull over.

Standard procedure should surely be for the police vehicle to remain square behind the target vehicle (and with lights flashing etc) until such time as the target vehicle is out of danger. If the target vehicle stops in a stupid place then the police officer can take aggressive steps to encourage it to move out of danger as rapidly as possible - but he at no time should he simply be abandoning it to it's fate.

Just my opinion of course - and it's very easy to criticise and over-analyse the actions of a few moments.

Jeremy
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2010, 07:05:36 AM »

As sad as this is, the cop car position had absolutely no bearing what so ever on where the path of the truck. It was broad day light with good visibility!
If the cop had been behind the car, we wouldn't have had the video.

The cop was setting the example of how to pull over - the car's poor choice should not require the cop to put his life in greater peril.


The bottom line is that the best we can do is look out for ourselves by being aware of our surroundings, potential hazards, & the fact that others may not be paying attention.
While that won't change the fact that s#!t happens.  Sad  It may minimize the negative impact.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2010, 08:06:05 AM »

This happened so fast that the cop did not have time to get on his loudspeaker to tell the guy to pull over more. As it was, even if the guy was pulled over more he still would have gotten hit and if it had been 5 seconds later the cop would have been out of his car and been hit too.  This was just a bad deal all around but could have been a lot worse than it was.
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