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Author Topic: Rear end of my bus "KISSED" a light pole last night.... Ouch!  (Read 3250 times)
Tully Lee
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« on: July 31, 2010, 06:48:59 AM »

So I take eight girls last night on my bus to go see Bon Jovi at Soldier Field in Chicago. Was a favor for a family member.

Hey, I have only been driving an RV and as of just three years ago a bus.  I have put
in some good seat time and feel pretty good about my driving skills.

Now, my backing skills are fair.  If I am backing up and the area I am backing into
is a straight or near straight shot I will proceed slow and check my mirrors right and
left.  If it is a tight area will have a spotter.

I pull into the out-lot at Soldier Field.  Traffic is everywhere.  Thousands and thousands of people and cars. A real mess.  No problem.  I feel that I am getting the job done in a safe
manner.  Proceed slow.  Keep my game on.   I pull up to a gate and $126.00 parking fee
latter I am at a lot with about 15 RV's, School Buses, Charter Coachs.   There are over a dozen parking lot attendants.  All screaming back it in back it in.  The girls on the bus are all talking and laughing. My friend who is spotting me is not in my mirrors enough.  I am sticking my head out the window.  Just a mess.  Not a straight shot back but some funky zig zag configuration.   Well you guessed it.  I felt a light tap. Turns out my back passenger side bumper "kissed" a light pole  Get out, stomach sinks and I start beating myself up over this stupid mistake.  Now I am second guessing my driving skills as a whole and really felt like a smuck!

Will have to post pictures and get a game plan on how I am going to fix it.  The bumper has the main middle which runs about 5 feeor 6 feet along the back.  Each side has the curved section.  It was the curved section that took the brunt of the hit.  and I will have to find, order and have this part installed.  The main middle part of the bumper I will see if I can get it straight some how.  It is only distorted because of the  curved sections bolt staying in place and it twisting a little .  Kind of hard to explain.  Will post pictures.

Will I ever be able to back up this bus again?  I should have gotten out of the bus, checked out the area I was going to back into and told the parking lot attendants to CHILL out and stop stressing me.


So, that is my story and I am sticking to it. Sorry to say.   

Worlds worst "bus backer" signing out.

Tully Lee
 
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2010, 07:09:40 AM »

1.  Don't let them rattle you, let them scream all they want, you will back it in at your own pace.

2.  Train your spotter, they have to be able to see your face in the mirror.  If you can't see the spotter, just stop until you can.

Most everyone here knows that sinking feeling when you have pulled an "Oh, Crap!"
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2010, 07:33:17 AM »

Don't sweat the small stuff. Nobody died, and sh*t happens, warts and bruises are a fact of life. These are dimples of "caricature". 4 years ago there was an "incident" with a golf cart and our front bumper, the bus stationary, cart not. Bumper with a twist. I waited for 3 months for someone to straighten our front bumper and finally did it myself with a jeep, wood  blocks and a rubber mallet. the results are satisfactory not perfect, but still great. Every scar carries a story and in time you will look back and chuckle. you are living a dream enjoy! I can think of nothing worse than sending a worn out, tired old car to the scrapyard  and still have the floormats covering the like new rugs. I find no fault in using the bus, only in not savoring the path!.........s.......
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2010, 07:37:14 AM »

Tully,

I know the feeling (not with the bus, at least). Don't beat yourself up over it. Simply learn and move on. Mistakes happen.

I hope you can get your parts figured out soon.

God bless,

John
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2010, 07:55:50 AM »

hey! you can't take my title! I'm the worst bus backer there is! I've not even driven my bus FORWARD yet! Cheer up, it happens!
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2010, 08:11:51 AM »

Sorry to hear that you had a incident with your coach been there my self. Cry
Just remember G.O.A.L. before backing your coach- Get Out And Look!
Explain to your spotter when and if I loose sight of you while I am backing the coach I will stop.
Also we carry two small hand held two way radios that my spotter and my self stay in contact with each other.
Noisy passengers are a distraction stop the bus get out of the drivers seat do the GOAL and step back inside the bus  and tell the passengers to be very quite while I am backing this coach up.
You are the driver The Bus Boss so to speak so explain to your passengers what will happen if they are not behaving that they might be come a hitch hiker! Grin Grin
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2010, 09:20:53 AM »

Wow, you will go to ANY length to find an excuse to buy that rear-view camera system, ha . . ?

BTW, when I GOAL before backing in somewhere, I estimate the distance that I can go, and find something on the ground that is that far behind the middle of the driver's window (if necessary, I put something there).  When my marker appears in the window, I know I'm pretty much there, get out and check distance again and repeat the process if I still have a foot or two to go.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2010, 09:44:56 AM »


Hey, the backing part is no big deal.  Happens sooner or later to all of us I think.   What I dont understand is, $126.00 to park!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would TOTALLY  freak out over that.  No freakin way!
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2010, 12:22:26 PM »

Obviously, backing is more difficult because you don't have that nice big windshield to look through. When backing, I use the procedures I was taught by the Fire Department. Best is a spotter that you know, not just anyone standing behind your coach. Make sure you can see spotter in mirror, if not, STOP until you can. Next option, if a known spotter is not available is someone else s;potting for you AFTER you have explained your intentions. Final option is GOAL. Above all take your time and don't get in a hurry. If the parking attendants try to hurry you, ask them is they will take full responsibility for any all damages should anything occur. If (very unlikely) they say yes, ask them to put it in writing.  Jack
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 01:41:29 PM »

Bummer,

That is why I like my ugly (in everybody else s opinion) DOT bumpers on my Eagle.  I backed into a rock mountainside at a National Forest campground once, and I mean I hit it hard knocking stuff off furniture in the coach.  It didn't do a bit of damage.  If it had been a stainless blade bumper, I would have had to replace a bunch of the back end of my bus. 

Hope it doesn't cost too much to repair.  Oh and $126 to park Shocked yikes that is high.  Ouch there, too.

David
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2010, 02:18:31 PM »

Sorry to hear about your "incident"...
I'll second the advice about a backup camera, It's worth it!!

The good news is that if you need to replace them, the parts aren't too expensive from Prevost...

Part number 410300 Bumper Extension Rear  (corner) - 192.50
    410305 Bumper XL rear center section $423.27
    410146 Bracket, Rear bumper mounting  $91.28

Shipping included.


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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2010, 02:51:31 PM »

I've hit so many things with the bumper I lost count. My worst ones were two rear window knockouts when ambushed by tree limbs! Rear view mirrors don't do so well with tree limbs I found out!!

After that I got a BU camera and things are much better. I set it so that the bottom edge of the screen is four feet from an object.

I also do a lot of getting out and looking, works very well. Nothing else does the job as well.

Very few people are available when needed who know to how to direct or to stand in view of the RV mirror. Body language is not really much help!!
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2010, 03:12:31 PM »

$126.00 to park!

Oh, and hate you bent your bus!

$126.00 to park!
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2010, 05:57:04 PM »

If the parking attendants try to hurry you, ask them is they will take full responsibility for any all damages should anything occur. If (very unlikely) they say yes, ask them to put it in writing.  Jack

If the parking lot attendants try to hurry me, I'll tell them I intend to enjoy the luxury of easing into my $126 parking space at MY speed.  If they want me to move faster, they can give me a pull-through space.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2010, 06:10:21 PM »

Thanks all for the follow ups.  I do feel a bit better.  I guess with several hundred people to witness this  it just added to the frustration.  Steve903- thanks for the research on the price parts...  That is of very big help!

The $126.00 fee was paid by all the girls.  They will rape you on parking at concerts.  I could have parked for $45.00 at a lot about a mile or so away- they (the girls) did not want to go for that.

Anyhow, good advise from all.   G O A L !    Get a good spotter and have two way radio of cell phones at hand...

Will keep all posted....

I really enjoy this forum.

Tully Lee
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