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Ed Brenner
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« on: August 19, 2010, 04:04:17 PM »

Okay,  two friends of mine are going to be doing a re-power next month of a 58 foot boot. They are taking out 2 V16 DD or should we say 4 8V92 turbos. Two of them I assume would be useful (correct rotation) or perhaps all depending on how they transfer the power to the shafts.

My question are they worth anything to the busing community? I hate to see them just be scrapped or left to rot. I know the owner ain't going to want them sitting around. He doesn't know anything other than adding fuel. I might be involved in the removing process and thought if there was any interest I might see what I could get them for.

I'm sure exhaust manifolds ( heat exchanger)and associated parts are different but there ought to be a lot of useful parts.

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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »

Would the "wrong rotation" ones work in a transit?  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2010, 05:21:51 PM »

As I understand it, any of the double block Detroit Diesels (16V-71, 24V-71, 12V-92, 16V-92) are purposeful built engines-meaning they cannot just be separated and reused as two engines.  They have unique engine blocks (the front block doesn't have gears for the valve train), unique crankshafts-the front crankshaft cannot facilitate a flywheel, and the rear crankshaft cannot facilitate a vibration dampner, etc.  What you could salvage from the engines are the four cylinder heads per engine (even the injectors are WAY to large for bus use), and maybe the blowers.  The water pump, oil pump, engine oil coolers (unless there are two) are unique to this engine.  Why are they taking these excellent engines out of the boat?  Get with Don Fairchild for rebuilding into tier 2 approved engines for smog.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2010, 06:53:25 PM »

How about I extend the back of my MCI9 say 5 feet and drop in this 16V92. Anyone want to drag race then? Kenny
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 12:02:02 AM »

In the 80's I did see an extra long hood Peterbilt with a 16V-92TTA-880hp and around 2800lb/ft torque.  Asked the driver just how fast he needs to go and he said-65mph up, 65mph down, 65mph all day long.  He had a mid mounted 6 spd Allison off road automatic transmission-pretty impressive.  Also saw a Peterbilt with a V-12 Caterpillar 3412B in it-also about 850hp and about 2650lb/ft torque.  Course now, fuel prices are too high for that, but Detroits DD16 at 600hp and 2050lb/ft torque comes close-and is incredibly clean burning.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 05:31:27 AM »

How about I extend the back of my MCI9 say 5 feet and drop in this 16V92. Anyone want to drag race then? Kenny

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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 05:45:30 AM »

You would need the fuel tank out of t6he boat too.  Then there would be no room for the bed.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2010, 06:09:58 AM »

Tom, you say that the Peterbuilt had a six speed Allison.  If that is a World, then the truck would have been pretty recent right?  Don't think they made that trans until the mid '90s did they?  Also can't believe that the trans would hold that torque. 

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2010, 06:17:02 AM »

I know that this is only a 12v71, but could you imagine a 16v92 in a bus LOL!don't know what trans is used in this one, but darn that is a lot of power to the ground LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2010, 06:29:22 AM »

Jim, Allison had the 6 speed in the old transmissions before the World they were used in equipment also I think they were model 70's one heavy sucker and were bullet proof I had one in a off road truck it out lasted  four 12V71 engines over the years in 12,000 gal water hauler


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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2010, 06:38:39 AM »

When I was driving truck out of Dallas in the late 1970's, my boss told me he went to a drag truck race and saw a truck with a Detroit Diesel (I believe he said it was a 12V92), that had the gear-driven blower plus two turbochargers on it. I wonder if a 6V92 would benefit or burn up with a separate turbo for each side of the engine? 
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2010, 07:07:19 AM »

My MC7 has a HT70 six speed that I was told was weak!  So far it has lasted 165,000.  It was original to the bus when built in 1971.  Was told no parts available, by stewart and stevenson!  Time will tell.  John L
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2010, 08:39:23 AM »

Junkman, the only weak point on the 70 was the wet torque converter if you could stop the leaks they didn't give problems the starter leaking was a biggest hassle for me and had the 70 blow the double rear main seal on the engine a few times filling the engine with AT fluid that is about the only problems I had with the 70 

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 10:04:03 AM »

Ed,

I just sent you a PM. Please contact me asap.

Thanks

Don
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 10:13:32 AM »

Stop on your way and pick me up going to get those Don lol be a good swap for the 2 MAN 10 Cyl in the boat and I can work on those 


good luck
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