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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2008, 06:58:43 AM »

If you are considering a residential type toilet you might want to look at the pressure assisted types.

http://www.flushmate.com/

No upper tank to splash around and less water use (1 gallon per flush).
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2008, 08:26:44 AM »

Hi Guy's,

Just so you know, busnut104 started this thread back in sept. of 2006.

Someone braught it up to current status by posting in the thread.

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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2008, 08:51:58 AM »

Can we ever discuss pooper comfort enough? Expiring minds want to know lol.
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2008, 09:47:22 AM »

Hi Guy's,
Just so you know, busnut104 started this thread back in sept. of 2006.
Someone braught it up to current status by posting in the thread.
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So Nick are you trying to say we are still talking about old CRAP?   Huh  BK   Huh
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2008, 09:49:18 AM »

Hi Guy's,
Just so you know, busnut104 started this thread back in sept. of 2006.
Someone braught it up to current status by posting in the thread.
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So Nick are you trying to say we are still talking about old CRAP?   Huh  BK   Huh

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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2008, 12:19:21 PM »

My vent is exactly the same as Ace's except it doesn't curve back at the end, it is straight down.

In fact, I think I got the idea from him a couple of years ago.

thanks, Ace.
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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2008, 06:21:45 PM »

Ahh what do you know? I'm good for something! Wink

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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2008, 06:22:26 PM »

My vent is exactly the same as Ace's except it doesn't curve back at the end, it is straight down.

Taken out of context-enough said LOL Cheesy Sorry Gus
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2008, 06:54:05 PM »

I looked through all of the posts and didn't see a comment about
Valterra's tiolet.  They look good but the valves go out very quickly,
we replaced an ancient Thetford Aqua magic in our 4104 two years
ago a Valterra.  It failed. valve wise, we placed the valve and it lasted
about four months, we now have an Aqua Magic.  We replaced a low end
Thetford in our fifth wheel and were well satisfied.  Caveat Emptor!
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2009, 08:46:21 AM »

If you are considering a residential type toilet you might want to look at the pressure assisted types.

http://http://www.flushmate.com/

No upper tank to splash around and less water use (1 gallon per flush).


However, they need a reliable, continuous full-pressure water feed.  I looked at the idea and discarded it after thinking about the RV campgrounds I've been in this last few months. 

I'm going (so to speak) with a dual-flush residential toilet, 1.6 or .8 gallons per flush, with a cable-operated drain valve to isolate the toilet from the black tank while driving (if left open, the S trap would slosh dry and let in the smell).

The important thing when using a residential toilet is to have a BIG black tank with a level alarm, so that you empty it before it's full.  If you don't, one flush too many would lead to a story your campground neighbors will tell for years to come!
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2009, 09:32:22 AM »

I believe they are also referred to as studer or studor vents. 

They are called "Air Admittance Valves" in the International Plumbing Code, and are made by Studor (www.studor.com) and other companies.  They are seen as a shortcut, not as good as a roof vent, and because they are mechanical they can fail, letting sewer gas into the house.

They are acceptable "when installed in accordance with section 917 of the 2003 Plumbing Code and/or 2003 IRC; section P 3114."

They are intended as branch vents ONLY, even with residential systems, and with our coaches we MUST have a 2-way vent from the tanks.  Remember, when you put water into the tank, you have to let the air go somewhere, or it will build pressure.

The reason they have to be above the P trap is so they will always be above the water level.  For coaches, this means that you MUST have level alarms in the tanks, or put them higher than the sinks and toilet, so you will never keep putting water in while it's leaking out the AAV.  You might consider mounting the AAV on the countertop (just use PEX from the vent hole in the tank).  That way you will see the water stop draining long before you would get to the AAV.

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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2009, 02:10:21 PM »

In addition to the bottom waste tank vent I also have the "interior check valves" on drains thanks to the PO, so, I have no roof vents except the fridge.

No problems of any kind so far.
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2009, 02:32:35 PM »

BG6,

Well said.  Nice to see those numbers for reference.

Thanks,

John
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