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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2011, 12:26:12 PM »

Cracking is the problem with Michelin tires,I have better luck with the Toyo's but not much difference in price on 315's between the 2 but never had a sidewall blow out on Toyo like the Michelin and forget about Michelin and a warranty it will all ways be your fault lol 

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2011, 07:08:04 PM »

Thinking about getting a set of these michelin's for mine.... Cheesy Grin Billy

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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2011, 08:58:07 PM »

I have heard what Clifford mentioned from many different sources, that Michelin are great in some respects but are prone to early cracking.  That makes them quite an expensive luxury. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2011, 03:23:34 AM »

We have six new Kumho's on our girl. They have less than 3000 miles on them and so far have been great. Someone will get the whole set when we sell the coach.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2011, 06:34:39 AM »

Just a couple weeks ago I purchased eight new Toyo tires for my Eagle at a price of $3400 - mounted, balanced and installed.  That seemed like a high price, considering that the same tire sold for almost $100 less just thirty days prior.

Since, I have taken the bus on a forty mile tire ride test.  Everything seems normal, which is to say that the bus rides as good or better than it did before and, I had no complaints then.

My travel plans call for approximately 4,000 miles within the next few weeks so, I can tell you more after the trips.

However, I can tell you today that $7,080 is, IMO, a ridiculously outrageous price for eight tires on a bus that travels considerably less than its commercial counterpart.   Sorry Michelin, I just didn't have an extra $3,600 to give you.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2011, 07:10:33 AM »

You are not going to get super buys on the 12r/22.5 or the 315/80/22.5 that Prevost uses those things are expensive in the major brands.
I was told by a large truck tire shop in Phoenix (he sells all brands) that Goodyear has the best 315/80/22.5 on the market now but the kicker is they cost more than Michelin's or Toyo's


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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2011, 07:51:14 AM »

One of the ways to save on tires is to weigh your bus by axle to see if in fact you really need to use the 12R-22.5 or 315/80R-22.5's.  I know many have switched to the much easier to get 11R-22.5.  I run 11R-24.5 since they are the tallest tire.  But-I could run a much smaller tire since I only weigh 10,500lbs front and 20,500lb rear.  Consequently I run just 90psi (which is still higher than necessary) in the tires all around.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2011, 08:33:20 AM »

Trust Prevost you do need the 12/r or 315's as they are border line on the front end for weight before the conversion work 

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2011, 09:57:15 AM »

I weighed 11,800 on front axle  89 prevost converted
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2011, 10:36:22 AM »

You are doing something right Bob I never saw one that lite on the all my friends with factory conversions on that year model are at the 13,000 lb limit one is 600 lbs over on his Marathon 1990  model the 8-8d Lifeline batteries are his problem in the front bay heavy suckers lol


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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2011, 02:14:52 PM »

That's with 2 slides and granite floors. weighed road ready fuel full-Indivual axle scaled and combined. Steel wheels. How much do your friends weigh? Grin Just kidding. Included 400 lbs for driver and co pilot.  Total scale weight 36100lbs  Bob
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2011, 02:39:17 PM »

They are a lot more than that with no slides they do have granite floors and counter tops both weigh around 34,000 just on the drivers and front I forget what was on the tag I am thinking some where around 8 to 10,000 lbs.
The Country Coach is heavier than the Marathon by 1500 lbs it has a 200 gal fuel tank   


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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2011, 08:23:35 PM »

I think that Michelin's are over rated. I've had the sidewalls blow out while they were setting and yes it was my fault.
I run Hercules on my dump and service truck. I don't care about ride but I sure get the service out of them. They have the deepest tread depth when they are new of any tire I've seen. 11R 24.5 14 ply, highway tread, priced today from my tire guy was $380.00 mounted, but he is a Distributor as well.
As for the Eagle out of 8 tires I've got three different brands. LOL
Used to have a Native fellow that worked for me and he asked if I knew how to tell a rez (reservation) truck? He'd laugh and say...It's got four different brands of tires on it!
I guess I've got a rez bus.
On the way to Tuba City, AZ right now.

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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2011, 09:36:09 AM »

I just want to reiterate what's already been mentioned here. From personal experience, I have found that nothing will extend the life of a tire more than keeping them covered when they're not going down the road. My wife sewed up a set of wheel covers for the bus about three years ago from a UV treated ground cloth material. Since then, both the covers and the tires still look like new. Anytime we're going to be sitting for more than 2 days, the covers go on. It only takes a minute and even without any ties, they've stayed on in winds above 70MPH. My 2 centavos, Will
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2011, 09:53:21 AM »

I just want to reiterate what's already been mentioned here. From personal experience, I have found that nothing will extend the life of a tire more than keeping them covered when they're not going down the road. My wife sewed up a set of wheel covers for the bus about three years ago from a UV treated ground cloth material. Since then, both the covers and the tires still look like new. Anytime we're going to be sitting for more than 2 days, the covers go on. It only takes a minute and even without any ties, they've stayed on in winds above 70MPH. My 2 centavos, Will

I wish I had that ... "A wife that would pitch in from time to time and help out" .... (don't send me any letters!)  My bride, bless her heart, would fit right in here. 

She is real quick to tell me when she doesn't like something and why it won't work.

Sounds like a good idea, never considered it for our bus, I had some covers on our travel trailer way back when and they seem to work, sunlight cracks 'em pretty fast, eh?
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