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« on: June 21, 2011, 05:58:16 AM »

i just received my license plate notice from SD.  $340 for my bus and van, or $440 if i wait until July to renew, and they don't expire until July 31.

i'm starting to again debate the wisdom of SD as my home state vs florida.

neither has state income taxes, and we won't be spending much time in either state to use up their taxes anyway.  i may "re-locate" to Florida.

how much are plates in other states?  just my eagle is $284 (or $350 next month). in SD
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 06:12:53 AM »

Tom, your bus would be $55.00 for 2 years here in AZ only requirement is AZ insurance and address you can keep the drivers license from any state lot's of my friends use my address and you are welcome to do the same 

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 06:57:51 AM »



The tag for"HUGGY"

is the same as my car.  28:00$ And the insurance is cheaper than on my old 750 honda.

and the taxes on a 1953 house car.  almost nothing.

Every thing in NC is cheap including me.

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 07:13:01 AM »

Tom, your bus would be $55.00 for 2 years here in AZ only requirement is AZ insurance and address you can keep the drivers license from any state lot's of my friends use my address and you are welcome to do the same 

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 07:19:04 AM »

$119.50 in Wisconsin for a Motorhome 26,000# and above.  Insurance is $600.00/year for us.

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 07:29:51 AM »

 309 here in so. Nv, hadn't gone up yet, but it will I suppose Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 07:36:33 AM »

hre in Illinois  its 102.00
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 07:37:31 AM »

309 here, hadn't gone up yet, but it will I suppose Undecided

your post doesn't have a state! Huh   seems kind of high like SD, so maybe i don't care tho  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 07:45:33 AM »

Nevada, $49.00 this year,on the Eagle, but Nevada dam sure makes up for it on our newer rigs.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 08:21:48 AM »

Something that could be a bigger issue than tag cost is insurance cost.  Insurance costs can vary widely from state to state and even from city to city in the same state.  Doesn't Florida have some sort of state tax on unearned income (investment returns)?

Minnesota would be a horrible state for a homebase, but they charge by weight for motorhomes.  I pay around $280 a year for my plates.  Gumpy has managed to get collector plates for his bus, but the state claims that RVs can't get collector plates, but the statutes don't exclude RVs.  My bus isn't even close to old enough to qualify for collector plates.  I know that collector plates are dirt cheap compared to regular RV plates.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 08:23:13 AM »

Tom,

FWIW, we are just about to change to SD.  When you factor in all the costs, it comes out on top, even with the higher registration.  Some things to consider, in addition to taxes on income, both earned and passive, as well as license and registration fees, are the costs of insurance -- health, liability, and vehicle.

As every full-timer should know, there are only seven states with no income tax.  They are:
Alaska
Florida
Nevada
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
Wyoming

Of these, some, like Texas, base registration on weight, and some, like Nevada, have an ad valorem fee.  Some, like Washington (where we currently domicile) have very high sales tax, which makes acquiring any new vehicles such as tow cars more expensive.

As a reminder to full-timing newcomers, you really need to do everything in one state to be safe; driver license, registration, insurance, voting, and taxes.  The days of getting away with the Chinese-menu approach ended when Colorado jailed several people for registering their rigs under Montana LLCs.  No matter what the state of registration tells you (e.g. Arizona, which, as Clifford said, does not care where you domicile as long as you pay them their registration fee, or Montana, who is happy to have your LLC in their state), your state of domicile can come after you for tax evasion if you register your rig "out of state."  And lots of states consider you domiciled there if you have a license of any kind, hold real property for personal use, or receive a payment of any kind.  Some states consider you domiciled there if you spend more than a certain amount of time in the state either continuously (e.g. Florida, 90 days) or annually (such as California, 180 days).

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 10:03:57 PM »

TN = $24 year - and if your late renewing there's no penalty and they start the new year when you pay your registration - FWIW
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2011, 02:29:57 AM »


As a reminder to full-timing newcomers, you really need to do everything in one state to be safe; driver license, registration, insurance, voting, and taxes.  The days of getting away with the Chinese-menu approach ended when Colorado jailed several people for registering their rigs under Montana LLCs. 

  This needs to be repeated so everyone gets it. All the higher tax states are looking for income now that they are getting pinched in the dying economy, and they will find it any way they can. If your claiming residence in another state, make sure you can back it up. A PO Box isnt going to cut it if they start asking questions.

 
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2011, 03:41:37 AM »

Hey Tom, I know of a Florida address that is available if you need it.  Tell Sis HI.  Jack
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2011, 06:49:22 PM »

Nevada, $49.00 this year,on the Eagle, but Nevada dam sure makes up for it on our newer rigs.
Matt

Well Battle Mountain is a lot cheaper then Elko County Here in Wells 385 this year last year first licence was over seven hundred.


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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2011, 06:57:16 PM »

I live in Montana and just paid 269.00 for permenate plates never have to buy them again. We do have income tax but no sales tax.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2011, 11:36:20 PM »


As every full-timer should know, there are only seven states with no income tax.  They are:
Alaska
Florida
Nevada
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
Wyoming

ADD:FWIW.....
 Does NH have an Income Tax or Sales Tax?

New Hampshire does not have a general sales tax or an income tax on an individual's reported W-2 wages.  There are taxes on an individual's interest and dividends income, inheritance, business taxes, consumer excise taxes and other taxes as listed below.  Fuel taxes are administered by the NH Dept. of Safety Road Toll office at 603-271-2311.
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 04:27:30 AM »

   As of a few years ago, when we were looking at property in North AL/South TN, TN had no state income tax and bus license plates were $24 per year and, I think, an extra $15 the first year for registation. They did have a higher sales tax rate than AL and higher property taxes.  AL license tags for ther bus were gonna be around $350-400, and AL had a state income tax, but at that time govt. pensions were exempt from state income tax and thay had a big tax break after you turned 65.  You have to compare total tax packages, not just cost of license plates.  Jack
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 06:47:33 AM »

John,, that sounds way to high on a 84, mine being ten years older,Nevada going by origanal price, and then after a certain age the base rate,
Mr Pratt's, from Reno Eagle is a78 and i think his tabs are about the same as mine, i would not be surprised if the dmv screwed  up.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 07:26:30 AM »

For most fulltimers New Hampshire charging tax on interest and dividends would probably be a dealbreaker.  A lot of fulltimers depend on that type of income to live on.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 08:01:59 AM »

John,, that sounds way to high on a 84, mine being ten years older,Nevada going by origanal price, and then after a certain age the base rate,
Mr Pratt's, from Reno Eagle is a78 and i think his tabs are about the same as mine, i would not be surprised if the dmv screwed  up.
Matt

I will check into it.  I was going to get get some Montana plates Next year 385 is way too high.


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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2011, 08:31:45 AM »

If you are a disabled or retired Vet or over 62 retired from the private sector Texas is the only place to be,they reduced our property taxes from over 2000.00 a year to 240.00 a year.

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2011, 01:45:20 PM »

I just bought a new car and had to buy new plates.  $388.40!!!!!! That's for a little tiny Honda.

 Florida may not have and income tax, but they will get the money from you somehow.

 Also several years ago when I relocated to Conrad Gardens FL my vehicle insurance almost doubled!

 Still FL was the best deal, for me at the time.    JIm
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 01:46:39 AM »

Jack - looking at the "total package" is what got Weiner in trouble Shocked
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 04:20:00 AM »

South Carolina:

1. Taxes on 1972 Eagle...$ 16.92 +county road fee...$ 25.00 (WHICH IS CRAP!!) = $41.92

2. Ins.....$610.00 for full coverage with rep. value @ $172000.00.

Problem comes in if vehicle is less than 15 years old.
2000 corvette: taxes $390.00
1999 f250: taxes  $ 285.00
Moral of story: Drive A P.O.S., live in a rundown singlewide, work for min. wage, and the government will provide you with everything else you need at the expense of those who work to have the better things in life!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 04:42:03 PM »

Moral of story: Drive A P.O.S., live in a rundown singlewide, work for min. wage, and the government will provide you with everything else you need at the expense of those who work to have the better things in life!!!!

You forgot that if you live like A POS then the gov will also take care of you also.


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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 04:58:01 PM »

Lot of the Escapee's who have a Texas address that have buses or Rv's over 25 years old buy the classic plates in Texas for 10 bucks a years and I checked there is no restriction for driving like in some states,a member here has those plates on a MCI 9.


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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2011, 05:58:58 PM »

South Carolina:

1. Taxes on 1972 Eagle...$ 16.92 +county road fee...$ 25.00 (WHICH IS CRAP!!) = $41.92

2. Ins.....$610.00 for full coverage with rep. value @ $172000.00.

Problem comes in if vehicle is less than 15 years old.
2000 corvette: taxes $390.00
1999 f250: taxes  $ 285.00
Moral of story: Drive A P.O.S., live in a rundown singlewide, work for min. wage, and the government will provide you with everything else you need at the expense of those who work to have the better things in life!!!!

Dadgum Eric I am glad I do not have one of those flashy Iggles like you have, my taxes are 13.90.
Now that insurance deal you have sounds golden. I'd be tempted to have a wreck.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2011, 07:59:50 PM »

  You havnt heard any Minnesotans telling you about taxes, but they aint #5 in the country for nothing. They did finally drop cars over 7 or 10 years old (I forget which now), to just a flat $34 or some such, but you get nailed hard on newer stuff. Something like a New Porsche plates can be over $3K. I believe a new $Million something RV could be well over $10K for plates.

  Arkansas taxes your personal property, but its not that bad from ive seen. Plates themselves are like $30, and permanent on trailers under 10K pounds
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