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Author Topic: Calculator$ for Kale: a Random Act of Kindness  (Read 6949 times)
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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2006, 08:34:35 AM »

Hey all,
I pretty much agree with everything that is said here....... except.......

Lets keep it educationally focused.

We don't need more footballs, or basketballs, we need education that starts with the 3 R's and ends with the classics of english, language, math, algebra, english, geometery, SPELLING!!!!!!!!, reading, DISCIPLINE etc.

I am submitting my apology now, but I truley believe in corporal punishment.

"Spare the rod and spoil the child"

I do not advocate beatings, (I had those), but a little applied belt or hairbrush or paddle seems to make a lot of difference.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2006, 09:51:06 AM »

Lets keep it educationally focused.

We don't need more footballs, or basketballs, we need education that starts with the 3 R's and ends with the classics of english, language, math, algebra, english, geometery, SPELLING!!!!!!!!, reading, DISCIPLINE etc.

I'm sorry. I thought that was a given  Wink 


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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2006, 07:17:33 AM »

Ok, I've had very little feedback on whether we should get Kale a TI-84 Plus Silver or a TI-89 Titanium.

Anyone have a strong opinion here?

Here's the TI-89 - http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_ti89ti.html?bid=1
Here's the TI-84 - http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_ti84pse.html?bid=1

I can't tell it the TI-89 is compatible with the TI-83 Plus that the school already has. The TI-84 Plus Silver is fully compatible.
I'm wondering if we should get something that's compatible with the high school calculators, or focus on college and professional
usage. This is certainly something he could use well into his professional career.

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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2006, 07:43:34 AM »

Ok, I've had very little feedback on whether we should get Kale a TI-84 Plus Silver or a TI-89 Titanium.

Anyone have a strong opinion here?

Here's the TI-89 - http://http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_ti89ti.html?bid=1
Here's the TI-84 - http://http://education.ti.com/educationportal/sites/US/productDetail/us_ti84pse.html?bid=1

I can't tell it the TI-89 is compatible with the TI-83 Plus that the school already has. The TI-84 Plus Silver is fully compatible.
I'm wondering if we should get something that's compatible with the high school calculators, or focus on college and professional
usage. This is certainly something he could use well into his professional career.




Craig,

Why not set up a short poll to gather opinions and preferences?

If you would like, one of the moderators could do it for you. Just be sure the questions are fair and representative of what you are asking.

My personal opinion is for the 84 as it will be the one most often used. the 89 doesn't seem to be backwards compatible.

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« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2006, 08:58:31 AM »

It doesn't matter how fancy the calculator is if you don't know how to use all the functions. I'd lean towards the compatable one so he will be able to get more experience with it in high school before really needing it later at some university.
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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2006, 10:27:56 AM »

Craig, I dunno if you've seen this, but here's a nice matrix of the various calcs TI sells.

Looks like the Titanium has much more advanced functions, memory, graphing, etc.. BUT, doesn't seem to be compatible with the TI-83.

There's some nice reviews of the Titanium model here on Amazon.  I'm not a math whiz, so some of the reviews go WAY over my head... The Silver Plus reviews tend to be a mixed bag (though most review sites are), but some reviewers mention that the model might have some "bells and whistles" that may not be necessary.

Maybe buy Kale the Titanium (should serve him well in college and beyond) and the school a few 84-Plus models. If compatibility is an issue, he could use the school's calc(s) at school, and the higher-end, more "future-proof" model at home. Of course, unless he's going to engineering school or something, maybe the Titanium is overkill.

Alternatively, buy him the Silver Plus model (since that's the contest design), and the Plus models for the school.

Decisions, decisions....   Shocked

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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2006, 11:32:20 AM »

My thoughts would be to buy Kale the calculator that the school is using. Teacher may not allow any other units as no time for "personalizing" the use of other model graph calcs.
IMHO, for Kale, the Ti84 Plus (believe this was the original item?) is what I'd supply.
His college needs are unlikely to be met with this months latest technology. And future college may have their own preference in calculators. Universities really like consistancy..."consistancy:" as in units they sell.
That said, I have no problem with whatever Craig decides. Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2006, 01:32:45 PM »

When I went to college, I bought a hewlett-packard 41CV (cost ~$175.00 then Shocked). It is RPN (no '=' key, instead it has an 'enter' key). With my dyslexia, it was great. I use it still today 25 years later. Smiley

Only a few of those were in use at the time & there was no standardization of calculators. The professors didn't care how you crunched the numbers, as long as you did the work. He will probably need a laptop at college more than a calculator anyway.

One spring break, we went to the cape to tour NASA. I remember the movie of the shuttle launch. The astronauts had a 41CV on the shuttle dash & were using it during flight. For the time it was released, it was one hell of a calculator. Still is! Grin

OK, OK, back to my point. I don't think it really matters what calculator he gets as long as it's a good one & he can use it now in school.
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2006, 02:57:56 PM »

Welll,  you guys have pretty much voiced every one of my thoughts, both for and against each model Cheesy

Kyle, if you look back at the original thread, I talked about my math teacher. When I was in 7th grade, I bought a Sharp programmable scientific calculator for his classes. It could be programmed with up to 30 steps. I'm proud to say I still carry it with me every day. That's getting close to 30 years.  It's had a rough life. I carried it in my shirt pocket all through high school and college (yes, I was a geek) and it hit the floor more times than I can count. I'm certain I'd still be using the original batteries, except that after about 15 years, it started malfunctioning, and I replaced the batteries. Didn't help. Turned out the screws holding the ribbon cable that connects the LCD were loose.

Never have used an RPN TI. Always seemed odd to me. But then again, some of the software I write these days seems odd to many others.  Cool
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« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2006, 11:00:40 AM »

Had a chance to talk to a family friend this weekend who just graduated from high school and has entered a technical program in college. He was very familiar with the TI-83/84 calculators and offered considerable information. While he had not used a TI-89, he indicated that it was his understanding that the thing does so much, that it is not allows for use on some of the college entrance exams, and many college professors will not allow it to be used on exams, whereas the TI-83/84 Plus series is widely accepted for use on entrance exams and class exams.

I think, in light of this, and the previous discussions regarding compatibility, that I'm leaning toward staying with the original plan which was the TI-84 Plus Silver edition for Kale. I think the TI-84 Plus would be a good choice for the school.

The donation total currently stands at $436.21.

I see the TI-84 Plus Silver for $109.95 here http://www.asenashop.com/ivn/pr-0/7165. Anyone know anything about this place? They also have the TI-84 Plus for $99.99.

Scratch that. I found a site that hosts consumer reviews, and they haven't faired well lately. I'll stick with the namebrand stores, even if it does cost a bit more. Maybe I'll stop by a couple on the way home one evening to see what they have in stock.

---- And then I found this place http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?catalog=softbyweb&query=ti-84. Seems to have a good review score as shown here http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=12757393/search=ti+84+plus+silver+/ut=cf6d014949853975.


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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2006, 02:15:18 PM »

Craig,
I was piddling around looking for low prices on the TI-84 and found it for 109.95 at Amazon with free shipping and no tax.

Oh, I also found out that there is a difference between the TI-84 Plus and the TI-84 Plus Silver. The Silver has more memory available.

It's too bad that the TI-89 isn't allowed as Sams Club has it for about $136.
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2006, 07:18:56 PM »

Thanks Dallas, I hadn't checked Amazon. Will keep that in mind and watch it as we get closer to ordering. Maybe with school in session now, the prices will come down a bit. Better not wait till Christmas shopping season  Cheesy
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« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2006, 04:56:46 AM »

Just an update. Donation total still stands at $436.21.

I expect to close this out around the weekend of Nov 4/5 and order calculators. Currently looks like 1 for Kale, 4 for the school.

Did anyone ever find somebody who can do silk screening on the covers? 

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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2006, 02:46:56 PM »

Gumpy & Spaceshipbuffalo....

I made a donation early on and promised to make another after all the profits I reaped at Dallas' rally....but that wasn't in the cards.
Dallas wouldn't spend any of Cats' hard earned money....so Undecided

A friend had asked me to buy him a book on the E place...which I did...and the seller went south after I paid for the item. Hmmm. Huh

Since I used PayPal there was a slight chance that I could re-coup what I thought was lost...so I entered a gripe! Wink

In a week or so, guess what? Cheesy  The money arrived back in my PayPal account! Grin

So, I've added the $19.99 (another oddball amount) to Calculator$ for Kale in the hope that it brings you to an amount that will do some good.

And I did so without asking for any personal recognition but didn't know another way of telling you that you have both done a great job, for which I and the other BusNuts, Thank You...and let's hope that there might be one more who wishes to make a contribution.

C'mon guys...let's pitch in here!

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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2006, 04:35:15 AM »

NCbob,

Thank you for your continued support. The additional donation is much appreciated.

All,

We currently have collected $507.82.  That's another calculator for the school!!  That brings the number of calculators we
can purchase to 5 for the school, and one for Kale!

I intend to have the donation time go through next weekend, and order calculators the following week. If you would still like to donate to this project, please feel free. Each calculator costs around $100.

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