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Author Topic: Well Son of a dadgum- I am ticked off  (Read 2789 times)
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« on: August 24, 2011, 07:31:32 PM »

I was all happy and drowning in my luck on the bus.  I was on the porch talking on the telephone when all of a sudden I see lightning in the distance.  The wind picked up and the lightning got closer and closer.  Then the wind got out of control.  I am guessing sustained 50 mph with gusts higher than that.  A tree went down in the backyard.

I turned to the barn in time to see the freakin roof come off.  Oh I am ticked off.  I told the dang builder to put hurricane straps and he didn't get to it yet.  Now all my power tools and every thing is getting soaked.  OHHHHHHH OHHH I am mad enough to kick him right on his ear, like a spider monkey. Can I say dumb arse on this forum?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 07:36:14 PM »

Count to 100, breathing very slowly, then run over him with your bus.

 Grin

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 07:54:59 PM »

50 mph and it took the roof off?  Sounds like he forgot to put more than just the hurricane straps on! 
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 08:02:43 PM »

I built pole barns for years (several hundred buildings) never had one go down with wind under 100mph and never put straps on any of them. In fact only lost one to a tornado that I know of.  should of never pulled trusses loose from post! I would ck to see how many nails/bolts he had holding them to post.   assuming it was a pole type barn. If it was block or stud wall it still should have had trusses anchored to walls.   Bob
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 08:13:19 PM »

The trusses are good to go.  They are anchored with gussets.  He got cheap on anchoring the tin.  I saw the bottom 2 by 4, which was nailed to the trusses, lifting as it pulled the nails.  It was all over but the crying then.  It lifted and was gone.  It flipped up like opening a tin can. 

They had only used the nails to hold the plate in place.  He was supposed to come back and add hurricane straps.  He procrastinated and now he could very well get a kick in the mads.  I called him and he will fix it.  All he has to do is put a new roof on Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 08:20:39 PM »

Hey look @ it like this. He screwed up, and now he/his insurance has to replace ANYTHING that COULD get damaged by getting wet.

I see a whole new set of power tools, pumps, filters, etc (anything that gets damaged when wet!) in your future!
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 03:03:23 AM »

We had some pretty high winds here last night here in Georgetown, TX around 8 pm or so. They just came up out of the blue and we have our patio awning out due to the extreme heat we have been having. I was real concerned that it would rip it off. When it's blowing you can't do anything but pray. No damage, all is well.

Sorry about your roof! Hope the guy gets it fixed and you can get back to normal.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 06:05:53 AM »

Well i talked to the builder this morning and his question was "What are you going to do"?  My answer was meet you at my barn at 5:00 PM today.  I do believe he is going to figure out I am a very nice person 99.9 % of the time.  It is that .1 % that matters in a situation like this.  I call it a "Come to Jesus meeting".
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 06:12:15 AM »

It may or may not be of much consolation but at least you and your family are ok. You can always replace a roof but not people. That guy has some explaining to do but the truth is on your side.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 06:59:02 AM »

How long ago did the builder build the barn?   I think your insurance is going to have to cover it, and you are going to have to fix it.  Builders have very little liability for anything they do, it seems.  If you didn't specify in writing that you wanted hurricane specific items, and if you paid for the work, you may be out of luck with the builder.

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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 07:19:42 AM »

Before you guys get to heavy on the builder check the facts in TX and OK you get the micro burst associated with thunderstorms they will lift the roof off anything if one gets under.
I had one take down the walls on a Best Buy and Albertson's I was building it was a concrete block wall concrete filled blocks and braced nasty little devils only 2 buildings on site damaged 

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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2011, 08:19:29 AM »

We have been praying for rain for months. Now your crying in the way it was provided. Just never happy. Grin It does suck. Glad that tree did not fall on the bus or anything.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2011, 05:04:49 PM »

Oh he is going to fix it.  He is just probably thinking how he can get out of it.  30 days after it was done a wind lifted the roof.  I called and he looked at it.  He said his guys should have used screws and that he would come back and clip it with strips.  He never did.  This repair is on him.  Oh and by the way, I am a civilized man but have you ever heard the Trace Adkins song "Sometimes you just have to whoop a man's @$#".  He was supposed to be here at 5:00 pm.  I think I am going to have to go into the closet and get my butt whoopin shoes on.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2011, 05:18:30 PM »

Trace Adkins whoop a man's @$#


I rather have Montgomery Gentry, Revival, Pass Me Another Copper Head ... You could get into that snake man.  Sorry about your roof, you don't always get what you pay for any more.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2011, 05:50:10 PM »

I called him on the telephone and he will be ere at 9:00 pm.  LEEETTTTTs GETTT REady to RRRRRumble!!!
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2011, 06:08:07 PM »

Talk to the county, There must be a building code,   and a contractors license
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 06:29:58 PM »

He is in Texas most places there don't require a license a contractor for building pole barns they do require a license for electrical plumbing work
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2011, 06:35:24 PM »

depends if there was a permit pulled and approved plans for the barn, and if the barn was built to the plans and the code.  I think a snap windstorm in that region is a bit of a grey area, as Clifford alluded to.  It could come to six-guns at dawn...

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 06:40:34 PM »

Good luck here. He has admitted wrong doing on his crew not using screws. So now he is on the defensive end. I have used ring shank nails and screws. the nails hold good when the right length and pattern are used but the screws better. The nails when nailed properly are near impossible to pull out of wood.  Bob
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 06:46:57 PM »

I built pole barns for years (several hundred) never had one go down with wind under 100mph and never put straps on any of them. In fact only lost one to a tornado that I know of.  should of never pulled trusses loose from post! I would ck to see how many nails/bolts he had holding them to post.   assuming it was a pole type barn. If it was block or stud wall it still should have had trusses anchored to walls.   Bob

Bob.....Are you sure you remember how you built those pole barns?   I mean, you say you built them for several hundred years so.....your memory might be starting to slip at this point   Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2011, 06:58:13 PM »

Not years but #'s  both  ag and commercial close to 300 pole and many more steel bldgs.  Good catch. on years I'd really be a old fart.  I hate to see someone loose a bldg on workmanship. Weather is another story. If the metal pulled off like he described it should have taken structure with it or left holes in the metal. I live in tornado alley and know wind sheer and up burst etc.  They do weird things.  Just didn't sound like what he described. Just got a feeling something not right here.  but have to admitt I'm not there to see it just trying to give him a idea what to look for.  Sad experience.
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2011, 07:23:03 PM »

I am still waiting for what roofing material was used me I prefer the lead head shank nails on corrugated steel they hold a lot better than screws

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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2011, 05:32:24 AM »

Hello Luvrbus!  My barn was made of wood with a tin skin.  At the base of the truss at the top of the side walls was a 2 by4 nailed on top of the trusses.  The roof tin was screwed to it.  Each 2 by 4 was nailed to three trusses, a truss on each end and one in the middle.  So a total of 9 nails per 2 by 4.  It didn't stand a chance.  I wasn't made to hold a storm it was made that way to hold until the hurricane straps went in.  He just put it off as long as he could and it bit him in the butt. 

I could hear him crab crawling on the telephone.  I was joking about whoopin him as I am too old for that kind of nonsense anymore.  I have known this guy for a while.  He can't hide from me because he lives across the street.  He came by last night but I had already gone to sleep.  I usually get up twix 0400 and 0500 so I can't stay awake much passed 2100 hours.  I am pretty sure when we speak in person he will do the right thing and fix it.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2011, 07:01:31 AM »

Here is a cellphone pic of the damage
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 07:16:17 AM »

I can tell you don't get much snow, or cold weather by the light construction, LOL.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2011, 07:30:03 AM »

I can tell you don't get much snow, or cold weather by the light construction, LOL.

We have lived here for 8 years and recieved a total of 12 inches of snow and in the last year about two spits worth of rain.
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