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Author Topic: Introduction From the High Desert, California  (Read 2284 times)
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« on: August 30, 2011, 06:58:11 PM »

Hello All,

My name is Paul, and I too am a busaholic.  Upon wanting one (or more) buses for 30 years, I purchased my first, a 1981 Gillig tandem with Cummins 855 290HP and Allison HT740, almost 4 years ago.  It is partially converted, and I have accumulated a number of new parts/equipment for installation.  ' jonesin' for a 10-speed, I also purchased a 1983 Crown tandem with a turbo 6-71 Detroit and the Roadranger, exactly one year ago. My fiance and I (to wed in 5 weeks!) have hosted the annual "Buses Gone Wild" for 3 years, here at the "Hacienda".  Now with renewed motivation and cooler weather on the way, I thought I'd "join up" and get this show on the road.

I've enjoyed "lurking" for a long time, and now hope to contribute, as well as continue to benefit by the fine posts on this forum.  ' pics soon.

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Paul
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 07:03:22 PM »

What part of the high desert, do u call home
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 07:05:55 PM »

Phelan.  I've been here 9 years, and I love it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 09:00:22 AM »

Cool, I am over in Palmdale. We should get together and share bus notes.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 09:33:26 AM »

Absolutely.  What type of bus have you got?  I am additionally storing a '73 Crown for a friend from Palmdale; it had been under attack by vandals, and his search for curved glass may conclude soon . . .
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 10:03:31 AM »

I got a 1989 MCI 102C3
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 10:29:06 AM »

Hey guys! Im in Ridgecrest, I wanna go too  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2011, 11:12:39 AM »

Sounds good. It would be nice to get some of us together here in Southern California. What kind of bus do u have
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 11:20:47 AM »

We should do a bus rally somewhere in the area. I wonder how many bus nuts there is in our area.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 11:23:29 AM »

That would be great.  Turnout at our 3rd annual "Buses Gone Wild" on June 4-5 was rather weak this year . . .  Perhaps we'll do better with an impromptu BBQ!  With the exception of 3 years' worth of projects to do in the upcoming 3-day weekend, my weekend is open Wink.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 11:54:17 AM »

Hi Paul,
Maybe BGW IV can include an RTS and an MCI?   They'll keep my Super II company (us pusher-wallas must keep together).   With those two buses, and mine, and your three, and one of Glen's seven, and one of John's many Deuces, and BrownCrown from Bakersfield, and Keith if he can put tires on his Crown, and maybe even Eric The Grand Poobah and one of his fleet, we could have a big get-together next time.   I still think drag races up Johnson Road could be a big draw, or maybe we could do bus drifting in your orchard.   How about a bus tug-of-war  -  OK, your big blue monster will win that one.

See you in LV next month.
Best wishes, John
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 11:57:46 AM »

Yes, maybe I shouldn't be so quick to discount continuation of the BGW tradition . . .
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 12:02:59 PM »

I would have been there had I know about it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 12:19:41 PM »

Before Memorial Day next year ask Paul if it will be happening again.   The three BGW get-togethers have been fun, with good food, good company, and some interesting buses to look at.   BGW is definitely the high spot in my hectic jet-setting social calendar!

John
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 05:44:52 PM »

I love opportunities to prove to my family that Im not the only bus nutso  Grin Please keep me informed!I have an RTS that needs a good jog!
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 11:14:31 PM »

Would be nice to have a So Cal get together-keep us posted.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2011, 08:05:13 AM »

Hello All,

Kevin here. I'm in Quartz Hill. It would be great to meet up with some of you locals to trade conversion ideas and so on. We've owned our '60 GM PD 4104 for about 11 years. Still have a long ways to go with interior, but we have all the basics for camping and use it year 'round.

Count me in!

Kevin
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2011, 09:19:43 AM »

Kevin, Im over on 16th West in Palmdale El-Dorado Ranches. I would love to see your bus and swap stories

Thomas
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2011, 09:49:38 PM »

Hi Paul,
Just "checking in."  Earlier this year I acquired a 1969 Gillig, tandem axle, Cummins 262 (220 turbo) with a RoadRanger RTO915 (ten speed over drive with a 5 speed deep reduction), air suspension with 95,000 miles.  It is one of about twelve buses purchased by Paramount Studios and modified to carry grip equipment.  It is perfect for conversion to a motorhome.  I have wrapped up the design and have purchased a lot of the "stuff" I need.  Unfortunately I am retired and have no time to work on my project.  I need to go back to work to get some rest (joke). 

I do wish I had the 855 Cummins.  They are available.  But, with the low mileage, it doesn't make much sense to swap engines. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 08:03:16 AM »

Hi Joel,

 ' a very cool, rare, beast!  I actually have some pictures of your Gillig, presumably with you standing in front of it.  Are you in SoCal?
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 09:05:26 AM »

Boogiethecat has a crown with a small bore cummins. He put awastegated turbo on it and we installed a 7sp and changed the rearend. I also put in new injectors and did a tune up.

I am in Bakersfield. I am an engine rebuilder. So if I can be of help to anybody please let me know.

I am also intrested in a get together.

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 09:41:10 AM »

I suspect it is the photo on the Gillig and Crown web site.  If so, that was probably two owners ago.  My friend (who also owns one of the grip equipment buses) and I grew up in Mill Valley north of San Francisco.  We both moved out years ago.  He was back in MV visiting staying in his bus.  A couple asked to see it.  The husband loved it and wanted to buy one.  He ended up buying "my" bus from Bradley in SoCal.  That is who is in the photo I saw on the forum. My friend drove the bus up for the new owner.  He then tried to teach him how to drive.  He never did do well driving - especially shifting.  He also finally realized he bit off more than he could chew on the conversion.  I bought the bus for $8,500 after it sat for five years.  With 95,000 miles it has lots of life left.

My last career was driving truck.  I'm very comfortable driving/shifting.  The only downside, as I noted elsewhere on the forum, is I don't like the ten speed pattern and the RTO pattern makes it twice as bad.  But, I'll adapt.  It's not like I'll be driving 10 hours a day six days a week. BTDT!

I've spent the last eight months planning the conversion.  The layout ended up being almost identical to our 35' travel trailer.  I'm closing off all the side doors except the one behind the refrigerator and adding windows.  The rear double doors and lift gate stay.  There will be a four foot deep storage area in the rear. Perfect for all the stuff we bring camping.  I tentatively plan on using an R&M fibergalss front cap to make the front look better.  I'd also like to trim the front like a Crown coach.

Lots of other minor things to do to make this thing 100% road ready.  Just have to get some free time.  We go camping every year to the same camp ground three hours away.  My wife does not like traveling in the pick up.  She feels the bus will make it nicer.  She can move around or even take a nap. 

We live in rural Penngrove, Sonoma County - north of San Francisco.  Wine Country!

Do you still have both buses?  Any photos? 
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 10:21:52 AM »

Yes, I've got both buses . . .  will try to post some pics this weekend.
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2011, 09:19:09 AM »

Paul,

How are you guys doing out there in Phelan with the Cajon Pass fire? Is it affecting you. Let us know if we can be of any assistance.


Thomas
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« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2011, 01:03:55 PM »

Hi Thomas,

No issues, here, thanks.  It's probably about 8 miles as-the-crow-flies, and I have only once even smelled a hint of smoke.  I did, however, pick up some garden hose repair fittings.  Smiley 

Having bombed the garage for black widows, ' now fixin' to crack open a cool one or three, and clean up and organize Smiley.

What's shakin' with you this weekend?
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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2011, 08:29:49 PM »

Ive been promising the wife to finish sheetrocking mudding and taping the family room that i built over a year ago. so I guess ill be up to my ears in mud and tape this weekend. I keep telling her, the more beer she buys me the more I get done.
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