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Author Topic: Got fuel in bus, it died. Stranded....  (Read 2382 times)
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« on: September 11, 2011, 04:59:51 PM »

Well I just bought $50 in fuel to make it home and before I could get out of the parking lot it started to run bad. Now it will start and then die shortly after. I have a 6v92 in a 84 model 10 eagle. Any advice? I'm going to try to gain access to the injector lines and make sure I didn't run it to low and cause a air pocket. I'm pertty sure I bought some water tho.

I never shut the bus off and it ran fine up til that point. I had just shy of a 1/4 tank when I bought the fuel.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2011, 05:05:28 PM »

Eric: ck filter 's see if they are full.   do you have a water separator in system? fill filters with fresh fuel.  just throwing thoughts out there.   Bob
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2011, 05:22:23 PM »

For filling fuel filter cannisters, filtered fuel is best.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 05:28:04 PM »

I couldn't get filters off. I cracked what appears to be the supply from take, it didn't have any pressure and none came out til I lowered the hose end some.

Is my fuel pump mechanical or electric? I can't see anything and my flash lights about dead already.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 05:32:47 PM »

should be mechanical  center of engine toward top.  you got electric pump with you?
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2011, 05:34:26 PM »

The pump is a mechanical gear pump situated (flow path wise) between the filters.

Primary (suction) filter at the pump inlet, secondary (pressure) filter at the pump's outlet, the pressure side.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2011, 05:35:29 PM »

Chances are your eagle has a mechanical pump.Has the bus been during long periods? Chances are it lost its prime. Removing the filters might do the trick. You might have to pressurize the system to force fuel up to the primary filter. I would start by filing both filters, preferably NEW filters because the old ones may be gummed up and not allowing fuel to pass.
I use a bug sprayer with fuel to prime my system. Ready to make and very inexpensive.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2011, 05:58:12 PM »

Ok I made a improvised filter wrench and got them off. They r half full. I'm gonna try trans fluid to top them off.

Am I gone need to either it or will it refire without it?

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2011, 06:03:01 PM »

For what it's worth Eric, it is amost unheard of to get water in fuel these days.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 06:05:37 PM »

odds are your gauge is wrong. or you got bad fuel. if you had elect pump with demo car you could put it in supply line to prime system and just leave in.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2011, 06:08:57 PM »

I'm pertty sure I ran it out of fuel. The filters where only half full. I topped the ATF and my wife is walking to get either.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2011, 06:13:10 PM »

It will fire without either 

good luck
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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2011, 06:16:18 PM »

wish I were closer.  treat like one of your construction pieces.   Bob
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 06:18:48 PM »

For future reference many buses won't run on the last 20 or so gallons.  I ran out of fuel once and I talked to bus mechanics later who said most buses won't pick up the last 20 or so gallons in the tank.

I purchased a non-mechanical fuel sender that is calibrated so empty is approximately 20 gallons remaining.  My new sender is pretty accurate when comparing the gauge level to the number of gallons added to the tank.

Good luck getting it running!
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 06:33:05 PM »

It's up and running. Thanks guys.
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