Since this post seems at least partially aimed at me or at least applies to me I'll try to elucidate:
1- The magazine as we knew it has seemingly already gone away.
2-Yes, the magazine does take longer but if memory serves there was a post asking what people prefer. I voted for the print. Since that post I've seen little about the magazine being published but a whole lot about pdf versions and flip versions and their merits, testing the waters apparently. This while seeing posts about how apparently improbable the magazine is. This is concerning to me.
3a- It's never too early to raise concerns over something that you paid for and are not getting while the possibility of seeing what you bought seems to be dwindling or the way that you get it (the terms) is changed without your consent, that's not what I paid for or wanted and I wouldn't have paid for it if I knew. I paid for something and that gives me an interest in what I get ...or not and when. That's what this is all about. Would it be better to remain silent and just take what I get...or not?
3b- Clarification in case of misunderstandings: I am not
interested in "legal stuff". Not worth it to me.
4a- I am kind. I support this forum and the people who have worked and continue to work so hard and my intention is not to be difficult or an @$#. My intention is only to voice my preference and views as I was asked to do and thought this forum was about. Not all will agree and some will, be that as it may, it's my voice.
4b- I can be patient, I just have concerns which I don't see being addressed well while rumors are flying. In fact I see things seemingly rapidly going in the opposite direction. I highly support those who are in charge and I commend their efforts. I'm just concerned about my magazine subscription which I just paid for and am now seeing alarming news about ( Uh, Dave, it looks like you probably will not see or get what you bought).
I'm also concerned about the future direction and outcome of the magazine as we all are. I think that anyone would be alarmed after paying any money even though, granted, mine was only a year this time, a small amount of money. I also think that I have a right to voice my concerns.
I can be very patient...as long as I at least know what's being considered, what's being done and that my voice is heard. I just had to deal with a kennel of imported European bred German Shepherd Dogs and had to exercise great patience over much more money than this, the breeding future of my girl was in serious doubt. I can be patient but I'd just like to be kept in the loop. If the printed magazine is going to happen I'd like to know when. If it isn't then why, for how long, and what will happen to those who paid money?
Summary: I'll repeat again my stand. I'd like the printed magazine that I paid for. I'd like it in a reasonable time frame or know when and I understand problems and concerns. If the printed form of the magazine will be suspended I'd like to know for how long or indefinitely and how that decision would impact me.Lastly and very important:
If the magazine just isn't going to happen then in lieu of a refund I'd donate my relatively meager monies paid towards the running of this forum since I'm not that interested in an online form of subscription since I know in reality I'd never read it. I've had online rights to several regular print magazines for years until recently and not once read them online. Not even the ones given to me free as gifts. I know I just won't get around to sitting there reading on the computer.
I default back to my original suggestion that the printed magazine try to be kept and maybe those who want it can pay more. Those who want online can pay a lesser fee. I'm not sure of the logistics of this though. Perhaps accept donations for the forum and then make the pdf version free to people who donate?
I don't think the print form of the magazine is going away.
The magazine takes longer to produce compared to pdf
Its too early for people to bring up contracts subscriptions and other legal stuff against mak.
Be nice and patient please.