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« on: February 22, 2012, 03:51:04 PM »

Back when Heather and I were wanting to paint our coach, we seriously considered the idea of rolling on acrylic-enamel. We eventually decided against it and ended up buying expensive Ford white paint and spraying the coach. Looks pretty good, but we decided to try the $50 paint job on our toad...removed emblems and taped everything today. Got a partial first coat on before it started pouring rain. In any case, we should be done by next week and I can post photos if anyone is remotely interested in doing this for their coach. Truth is, if you have no money, and want to spruce up the look of your coach, this might be a way. Labor intensive? Yes. Might it work? I'll let you know early next week. Truth is, a coach has mostly large expanses of flat sides/flatish roof, so a wide foam roller on a stick and a bunch of paint...just might be a cool/cheap way to get it looking at least decent. Not going into the chemistry of painting or the science of spraying v.s. rolling on etc. This is just for those of us who count every penny...and don't need $5000 worth of paint job on our coach.







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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2012, 04:05:58 PM »

very cool

I have rolled a few cars and if you take your time it will come out good..

I sanded in between every coat for a nice finish Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2012, 04:24:25 PM »

very cool

I have rolled a few cars and if you take your time it will come out good..

I sanded in between every coat for a nice finish Smiley

Definite plan is to wet sand between coats. Orange peel is actually very minor because it's thinned out big time (Rustoleum Gloss White).
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 05:00:32 PM »

I'm going to paint my bus this way in the summer, as I have 3 teenage sons aka infinite supply of free labor.  Probably just white with some basic 70's Winny pinstripes in brown & olive to keep the theme consistent.
Here is a linky for all you cheapskates:

http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html

And the grandaddy of them all.  I guess there's 100 pages to this, and an updated best practices somewhere in it:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

There's also a guy on the skookie site that painted a bookmobile almond that turned out good.  I personally wouldn't pick almond, but I can't fault his decision.

http://www.skoolie.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10497

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2012, 05:05:02 PM »

Yep...those were the sites that inspired me. Hot Rod Magazine did a Falcon too. And even years later, the paint holds up. Definitely want to see what your bus looks like this summer when you're done.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2012, 05:39:37 PM »

Many years ago I laughed at two young men of a lower social economic group painting a car with brush's. Then I had to eat crow, it really looked good when they were done, surprisingly good!!

 When I brush painted the wheels on my coach someone said here try this.

 http://www.tractorsupply.com/valspar-enamel-hardner-8-fl-oz--3449669

 It made a major difference in the brush-ability of the paint. May only be compatible with TS paint?    JIm
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 06:07:51 PM »

Years ago a friend did a 2 tone brush job on an old 1956 Dodge panel truck. It turned out really well,...in fact i didn't find out until about a year or two later that the panel had been bought from one of my dad's neighbors. Didn't even recognize it. Smiley I also did a brush job on a 55 Ford wagon that didn't look too bad from a few feet away. Also did a rattle can job on a 67 Ford Cortina that made a big improvement in the looks.  Smiley  Ahhh,.... the good old days.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 06:20:51 PM »

Jim,

I mixed my oil-based Rustoleum with mineral spirits. Literally a 50/50 mix. Otherwise the Rustoleum would literally take weeks to dry. I'd like to try this on my bus rims too...hmmm...
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 07:02:12 PM »

When (I say optimistically) I eventually paint my bus, it will be oil-based Rustoleum by roller and brush.   For now I have more time than cash, so a labor-intensive but inexpensive paintjob is my only option.   As long as it looks good from a few feet away I'll be happy.   One more advantage of Rustoleum:  touch-up is a cheap spray can available from almost anywhere.   Oh yes, another reason to roll it on:  I can surreptitiously do it in the RV yard where I park the bus.

The Rustoleum folk were telling me recently that the "good" formulation Rustoleum paints can no longer be sold in California, due to CARB and the air-Nazis (yup, the same unelected officials who require all old Crowns and Gilligs to be crushed if replaced by grant-subsidized disposabuses Sad ).   They suggested that a trip to Arizona or Nevada may be worthwhile for me when I buy my paint . . .

Did you know that London Transport used to brush-paint their buses many years ago?   A freshly-painted LT bus looked as good as anything sprayed these days.   I guess that traditional craft skills were still dominant then, and labor was also relatively cheap.

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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 07:43:45 PM »

You may not have to leave California...the LA basin is more restrictive than the rest of the state.
http://www.rustoleumibg.com/techinfo.asp?lvl=VOC&lvl2=VOCUS

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 08:06:50 PM »

I painted my bus with acrylic enamel applied by an airless. Looks good. The stuff doesn't roll or brush well onto hot metal. I'm not the type to sand a bus between coats, as is, it took three days to prep the thing for the first and only coat. Probably should of done it in two passes, just to reach every thing without wiggiling the sprayer (causes drips and runs). Acrylic enamel is twice the price of Rustoleum, but the thinner is free.
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2012, 08:25:40 PM »

  In ancient times....

  I read that RR was the last car company in the world to spray paint their cars. Before the advent of spray, everything was brush painted lacquer. Spray really took off after WW2, but RR held on into the 60's when it was simply deemed "antiquated". Before that period, spray paint was considered cheap.

  Generally about 57 color coats were applied by brush, with hand sanding between each coat, then 7 to 10 coats of clear brushed on with more of the same. Yep, nearly 70 coats of lacquer.

  Ive seen a lot of spray jobs that paled in comparison to a good brush or roller job, and in either case, sand paper and a buffer can hide a world of sins.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2012, 08:44:08 PM »

 You do know that All Fords in the 20's and some 30's were hand brushed laquer, and if the painter got a run in it he did not get paid and to sand N redo.
  The roof of my mc-8 needed 7gallons of Rustoleum  and I used cheap laquer thinner, througha china top loader low pressure gun outside.  First washed(scrubbed) with chlorine bleach, wiped with thinner, spray.  
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2012, 08:46:58 PM »

  (snip) Did you know that London Transport used to brush-paint their buses many years ago?   A freshly-painted LT bus looked as good as anything sprayed these days.   I guess that traditional craft skills were still dominant then, and labor was also relatively cheap.  

     Back when I worked for Norton motorcycles (1970's), we were developing a program to provide custom paint on motorcycles.  I spent a couple of days down at Park Royal body builders.  I was amazed to find out that they painted all the "body in white" (i.e. finished primer bodies) for all the Rolls Royce bodies that they made with brushed paint and when they were doing custom bodies they were putting on the finished coats with brushes.  I asked them if that was OK with the RR factory and the paint shop foreman chuckled at me and told me that that was how they were all finished at the factory.

     Speaking of London buses, maintenance was considered a good thing once.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfgjhC1s3U&feature=related  (although they're spraying)
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2012, 03:56:01 AM »

I pad-painted an air-portable Land Rover once with enamel paint and lots of rubbing-down. Got a superb finish, and one which was completely out-of-place on an ex-military vehicle.

I've a book on professional vehicle refinishing which is actually the text-book for an academic course on the subject. Lots of chemistry and details of how different approaches to painting for car manufacturers of different sizes. The section on 'ultimate, cost-no-object' painting techniques describes how the royal coaches are painted (the horse-drawn carriages that Queenie rolls about in). And - you've guessed it - they're painted by hand.

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2012, 05:32:56 AM »

At the end of the day, I've seen some amazing roller jobs...if you can afford to spend a week painting-drying-wetsanding between coats and get about 6 coats laid down, from what I've seen, it can look really good. I would love to experiment with adding metallic flake. Someday. But for now, our first coat has gone on really well with no mess, minimal taping, and it's just fun and nearly impossible to mess up. My wife and I are enjoying the time together...in fact, she's bugging me right now asking me if the car is dry enough to start painting again this morning  Grin She loves this stuff. Well...back at it. I'll post some "after" photos.
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2012, 05:49:22 AM »

  The truth is that the right paint will lay down and smooth itself out on its own, leaving behind its own wet glossy finish, resolving brush strokes, and require very minimal sanding to no sanding at all. As stated above, if the Ford needed any sanding at all, the guy didnt get paid.

  We have all grown up around spray painting, encouraged to believe anything else is second or third class, when in reality a spray job takes a lot more work to come anywhere close to a hand rubbed finish. Spray paint was created to speed up production, not achieve higher quality. And in all honesty, ive seen more awful spray jobs than good ones.

  I did spray paint my Aluminum boat. I bought the paint at Menard's, regular black Rustoleum. Thinned it down so it would spray, acid washed the metal and let er rip. Somehow the automotive industry has everyone convinced a Car needs different paint than a tractor or lawnmower, and you have to pay hundreds of dollars a gallon for it. I put a $12 can of paint on the boat and would defy anyone to tell me I wasted my time or money, it looks pretty good.

  What would be of great interest would be to learn just what kind of paint they used 70 or 80 years ago that you could brush on and not even have to sand. Some of that paint lasted for many decades, so whatever it was it was pretty good stuff.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 05:52:03 AM »

75 years ago it was mostly thinned nitrocellulose lacquer with retarder.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2012, 06:56:04 AM »

  I pad-painted an air-portable Land Rover once with enamel paint and lots of rubbing-down. Got a superb finish, and one which was completely out-of-place on an ex-military vehicle. (snip)

     Yeah, to be truly authentic, you want cheap kharr-kee paint and a mop; paint everything but the windscreen and headlamps.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2012, 07:20:50 AM »

  I pad-painted an air-portable Land Rover once with enamel paint and lots of rubbing-down. Got a superb finish, and one which was completely out-of-place on an ex-military vehicle. (snip)

     Yeah, to be truly authentic, you want cheap kharr-kee paint and a mop; paint everything but the windscreen and headlamps.

ahahah! Grin

Well, we're just about ready for our second coat. An old guy just walked by and couldn't believe how good it looked first coat and the fact we were rolling it on. He just shook his head and said "wow, that's looking really good"   Smiley  Mind you, our first partial coat yesterday was interrupted by a heavy thunderstorm and downpour literally 10 minutes after we stopped painting. This morning I wiped the entire car down, used compressed air to dry inbetween trim, etc, and the paint that got rained on looks perfect. Crazy...
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2012, 07:30:52 AM »

  (snip)  our first partial coat yesterday was interrupted by a heavy thunderstorm and downpour literally 10 minutes after we stopped painting. (snip)

     Oh, yeah.  Need a big rainstorm?  Painting a vehicle outside is a much better guarantee than just washing one.  (Seriously, there's a lot of water-base in modern paints; prolly working good for you in this instance.   Might have even done well to be a "cure slower"; you might have a better paint job than if it hadn't rained.)
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2012, 08:18:10 AM »

No one has mentioned that if you go to the recycling place and get the free house paint, the paint cost is 0...  Grin

A brush paint job, with the proper roller and reducers, hardner, etc will make a nice 20 ft paint job.
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2012, 08:28:06 AM »

  (snip)  our first partial coat yesterday was interrupted by a heavy thunderstorm and downpour literally 10 minutes after we stopped painting. (snip)

     Oh, yeah.  Need a big rainstorm?  Painting a vehicle outside is a much better guarantee than just washing one.  (Seriously, there's a lot of water-base in modern paints; prolly working good for you in this instance.   Might have even done well to be a "cure slower"; you might have a better paint job than if it hadn't rained.)

true dat. But I have gone over it pretty carefully...tried to scrape with the ol' fingernail, and it's holding up surprisingly well. Anyway first coat is really looking much better than I thought it would. can't wait for coat number 6 on Monday Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2012, 09:53:00 AM »

 I am reading this with interest, I spend a couple of weeks last fall removing the paint from the curved section of my roof just above the windows and the sections around the front and rear marker lights on the 4104.  I was reading about some industrial paints used on water towers last fall, now that warmer weather is getting here (high 70's today  Smiley, I need to get back on it. Not really wanting the texture of some of the roof coatings available

  The paint on the sides is in great shape, the center section of the top is good, just need to paint the 3' wide section above the windows. this would be a good place to try something like this. Would be a trade off between time not spent masking/spraying and a little more time wet sanding as I see it. Wet sanding around all those rivets may change my mind, I think I may start with a brush or rolled on primer, sand it and go from there....

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 11:01:05 AM »

Rick, We're finding that if you thin the paint out really well (Rustoleum Gloss White) 50/50 mineral spirits and paint (if you use thinner, it might flash off to quick) and roll it on...and roll over your rolled on spots over enough times to eliminate runs/tiny bubbles, it actually has a bit of a nice smooth shiny texture with only minor orange peel. Wet sand between coats and you'll have something that will probably look nice enough you'll want to do your whole bus that way.
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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2012, 12:51:39 PM »

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What sort / size / nap of roller are you using?   I'm following your progress with great interest!

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2012, 07:16:13 PM »

I'm going to paint my bus this way in the summer, as I have 3 teenage sons aka infinite supply of free labor.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 08:57:58 PM »

Well my thought process is, I'm already paying, so I might as well get all the work out of them I can.
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2012, 08:07:23 AM »

short nap, standard roller is what i just used on a trailer, and final roll was really light pressure after correct amount of paint was on the metal. I did use Rustoleum for this, and it is smooth this morning. Doesn't look brushed or rolled at all.

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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2012, 09:12:47 AM »

Most yachts are still hand painted.  Course the expensive urethane paints are made for that too.  If you roll the idea is to put the paint on so it will flow.  There are retarders that keep the paint from hardening quite so fast and allow the paint to flow out smoothly.  This is the theory on how new cars are painted now-they use basically no air pressure-more like a blower to politely blow the paint onto the car and allow it to flow out eliminating orange peal.  That's why new cars now have the best paint quality ever-and that most are using base (water base paint) with clear over.  You can slop on any kind of paint, and then using clear over can even make a flat paint look shiny.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2012, 06:26:16 AM »

 scott update ? pictures ? wanting to see how it turns out thanks john
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2012, 08:29:10 AM »

Hi John,

It's rained or attempted to rain here in Apopka, FL for the last couple of days, so we're still two coats of paint away from finishing. But I can tell you it looks pretty good already. It's cold (66 degrees) and rainy today and will be raining tomorrow, so give me until Tuesday. I can assure you I will not leave this thread hanging without "after" pics (I just hate it when people do that Huh). Tuesday should dawn nice and clear and I'll post some shots of the car with final paint coats, but yet unbuffed and unpolished (so it will still exhibit some orange peel and not a ton of shine yet).
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2012, 07:41:46 PM »

These are pics of the car with final (7th) coat of paint. No wetsanding or polishing has been done yet. It will shine when those two steps are completed later this week.






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« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2012, 07:36:50 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2012, 12:10:26 PM »

some of the pics clearly show that I didn't really try to fill in the dimples, dings, and random dents. Just not into that for a 1998 Camry with 230,000 miles on it. But I was embarrassed driving something so rusty, especially here in Florida where everyone's car seems to look like it's fresh off the dealership lot. Anyway, looks much better to us. Definitely not professional, but much improved. Again, give me a week or more before I polish and shine it. Then I'll post final pics. Thanks for the props BK
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« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2012, 05:28:38 PM »

Looks good. Did you attempt to "tip" it, and if so what did you think?
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« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2012, 07:21:25 PM »

I smell a project coming up, Laryn!
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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2012, 05:38:09 AM »

Laryn: I did not attempt to tip since the paint was really much too thin. In a thicker paint, I do think it would have worked perfectly. It seems to me that getting a nice good amount of the paint onto the flat horizontal surfaces of the car and then very lightly (using only the weight of the roller) rolling it out worked well, but again, still plenty of orange peel. Next time, I think I wouldn't thin the paint 50/50. I know that everyone is saying to do that, but thinned 50/50 it literally was nearly impossible to really get a good layer of paint on the car thick enough that I was comfortable wet sanding and then compound polishing. 7 coats and the paint was still so think I could see through it in some places. I got some on my hands, and wiped my hands on my work shorts, and when I looked down at my shorts expecting to see white paint, I only saw translucent white streaks. Amazing...I would rather it go on a little thicker (you still must thin alot in order for it to dry quickly) and then have a big job of wet sanding and polishing later. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2012, 07:33:12 PM »

Some years ago, while I was converting my Eagle, I was with another Bus-Nut when we visited a Bus-Nut friend of his and one of the things I found real instering was he and his wife would use rollers and brushes and the best grade of exterior house paint he could buy and the two of them would paint their GM 4106 about every 5 to 6 years.  They had done it 3 times in the 20 years they had owned the coach.

I was suprised at how good it looked 5 foot away.  Guess you could call it a poor mans paint job.

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