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Author Topic: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road  (Read 43194 times)
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« Reply #195 on: December 12, 2013, 03:58:32 AM »

RJ,

Thanks for the 1522 info, I will pass it on to the new owner.

Seangie,

Interesting bus story.

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« Reply #196 on: December 12, 2013, 12:03:21 PM »

Three more buses to add. We broke the 300 mark for confirmed by VIN numbers and going for 41040.

Buses:
4104-0646
4104-1464  Georgia
4104-4532  waiting for location

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« Reply #197 on: December 12, 2013, 01:22:42 PM »

Buses:
4104-0646
4104-1464  Georgia
4104-4532  waiting for location

Original owner history:

0646: November of 1953 to Pennsylvania Greyhound Lines, HQ'd Cleveland, OH. #P-5319,

1464: April of 1955 to Carolina Coach Company, HQ'd Raleigh, NC. #C-5518

4532: March of 1960 to Western Greyhound Lines, HQ'd San Francisco, CA.  #P-7554

So, two Hounds and a Trailways car in this group.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #198 on: December 12, 2013, 01:36:10 PM »

RJ Thanks,


I will try and put up new list by the end of next week. My home computer is the only one I work on my spreadsheet with. My laptop with excel died and have been too busy to drop it off for repair.


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« Reply #199 on: December 12, 2013, 01:39:00 PM »

Sid,

I assume that you have backups somewhere. However, you might consider putting it in a cloud somewhere. That way you always have it....

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« Reply #200 on: December 12, 2013, 02:03:30 PM »

A cloud? I R a bus driver, how do clouds work? Sounds like its above my pay grade. I thought I was up to date with the world when I got a thumb drive SUB.

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« Reply #201 on: December 12, 2013, 04:41:45 PM »

A cloud? I R a bus driver, how do clouds work? Sounds like its above my pay grade. I thought I was up to date with the world when I got a thumb drive SUB.

Jon -

"Cloud backup" is basically a back-up service that encrypts and stores your data out in cyberspace somewhere, so if your system crashes, you can restore everything w/o losing anything.

My brother-in-law, a very high-level program manager at Intel, uses a product called "Crashplan," which is the same product Intel uses for all it's laptops throughout the company.  I figure if it's good enough for Intel, it's good enough for me.  Very reasonable monthly rates, too.

There are other plans out there such as Carbonite, iDrive and Mozy, choose what's best for you.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #202 on: December 13, 2013, 10:57:35 AM »

Rj

You hit the nail on the head. This 5636 fleet number that appears on the bus in the old photo was probably the very last number assigned to the 4104 (by GH). If you knew the year the photo was taken, or more of the original (particular period livery) was left intact, you could guess which serial you were dealing with based on the fleet number. As you said, we do this all the time with deciphering old photos of Scenicruisers. Scenics and 04s, and others, may have had beween 3-6 different fleet numbers (depending on division moves, and legth of service). Some remained the same throughout. (not many) As you know, Scenics were the expection to the 10 year rule-of-thumb service life for GH. Some went through 5 paint schemes and 20 years of service. I am very lucky to have two different photos of my PD4501-771 while in GH service. One shot in 1964 by Fred Rayman in Iowa (no surprise!), and one shot by Jim Husing in San Fran in 1977 (SF was the dumping ground for Scenics to die!) You have to look at every single fleet number in your roster to see if that one pops-up. With 04s....thats a lot of numbers. My eyes bleed, just thinking about it!

They're are a few numbers that will not appear on your roster. That old Motorbus Society list does have some errors and ommisions. But....It's all we have! Take care

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« Reply #203 on: December 30, 2013, 07:37:54 AM »

4104-3151 is alive and well Indiana.


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« Reply #204 on: December 30, 2013, 08:06:46 AM »

2 buses to add, Same owner for both.

4104-4133
4104-4292

In Cicero Indiana.

That makes 3 buses from Indiana this month.

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« Reply #205 on: December 30, 2013, 09:12:55 AM »

Original owner info for latest '04s:

3151: January of 1958 to Western Greyhound Lines, HQ'd in San Francisco, #P-2579

4133: June of 1959 to Trailways of New England, HQ'd in Washington, DC, #TN-954

4292: December of 1959 to Queen City Coach Co, HQ'd in Charlotte, NC, #Q-4074

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #206 on: December 30, 2013, 10:44:55 AM »

Just saw this one, not sure if its on your list.....  http://nashville.craigslist.org/rvs/4205077449.html
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« Reply #207 on: December 30, 2013, 01:21:13 PM »

Thanks Gary,

Good looking bus and a good deal for a starter project. It doesnt look familiar so I sent an email asking for the coach's serial number. We will see what happens.

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« Reply #208 on: January 05, 2014, 10:34:11 PM »

Did you get this one, in Oaxaca via Kamloops?   http://lianadevine.wordpress.com/about-us/   It's a re-engined 1957.

So, are we going to see either (or both) of your buses at the next BGW?

John (with the un-Twinkie Crown)
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« Reply #209 on: January 06, 2014, 07:02:10 AM »

John,

No I did not know about this bus, I will try and make contact with them.It'd a good
looking bus. I was in contact with another full time couple in Mexico last year. But there 04 was a 1953 I think.

We will probably bring our skoolie to BGW. But since we live close to the event, maybe accept a short field trip to check out the 4104. Replaced start batteries with AGM's earlier this year. But still have a few things to get done before I take her out in public. Replacing subfloor in house for Christmas break.

No time to work on 04. The skoolie is on the road 3 times a month for dog adoption events.  Twice a month in Orange County.
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