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Author Topic: Wierd situation when buying off road diesel  (Read 3243 times)
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 09:49:47 AM »

It varies from state to state I did a job in Texas and was only allowed 25,000 gals per month tax free running 10 or 12 pieces of equipment 7 days a week it was gone in 2 weeks then it was a battle, then in OK they had no limit so I transported it from OK to Texas the high authorities in Texas said it was legal

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2012, 10:29:59 AM »

  Why would a gas station go to the expense of installing a special tank and pump for dyed diesel if they have to charge the same price as regular diesel?   

        It just seems to be weird where ever.  My dad had a small farm near my hometown and he had a diesel tractor; he was retired and never used it for anything but mowing grass etc.  There was a farm-supply store just across the highway from the entrance lane to his farm and he always had them repair the mower equipment, change batteries and oil, etc.  After my dad died, I took the tractor over to them and asked they to check it over and give it a general service before we sold it.  They returned it to me and I paid the shop fee and then thought "I don't know how old the fuel is or how much is in it" so I drove over to the "Non-Hwy" diesel pump.  Before I could pump any fuel, the owner came out and said "you can't pump that unless you have your farm tax number".   Here I am with a diesel tractor that he's worked on for 20 years that was kept on a farm across the road from his shop and he can't/won't sell me non-taxed fuel.  I just drove it over to the road-diesel pump and filled it. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2012, 10:34:32 AM »

At least here in California, the red dyed Diesel takes off the $.42 road tax.  In my book that's just not enough savings to justify all the problems it can create with fines, audits, etc.  Best just to use clear Diesel.

On that note-the new ultra-low sulphur is as clear as water.  So any discoloring will easily show up.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 11:14:52 AM »

Isn't home heating fuel just deisel? And its clear.
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 10:17:40 PM »

Home heating fuel can be Diesel Fuel-and it can also be dedicated Home Heating Fuel which is Diesel Fuel without the added lubricity that makes Diesel work well lubing the injectors.  Personally would not risk it.  Or maybe add a quart of oil to each 20 gal?  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2012, 07:52:30 PM »

If you fill your filters with it and the device has a return to the tank you just put dyed fuel in the tank.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2012, 08:25:10 PM »

 It only takes a 1/2 pound of Solvent Red 24 dye to color a 8500 gal tanker load of fuel I have watched it done the stuff is very toxic contains lead,ash and arsenic 

I guess that is why it is not manufactured here the stuff I saw was manufactured in India
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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »

Must be something new. It's been a couple years since I bought off road diesel for my backhoe, but I didn't have to pay a higher price or fill out a form for a refund.

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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2012, 08:11:15 AM »

In Nebraska in the fall all the farmers are hauling corn to town with these ancient trucks that see the road one week a year.  They set up safety stops on all the roads to town, dip the tanks, and check tires etc. because the farmers are always running nontax fuel, the tires are 30 years old, only one brake works, and the license plate was borrowed of the pickup.
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2012, 08:28:32 AM »

If you fill your filters with it and the device has a return to the tank you just put dyed fuel in the tank.

That is one thing I never thought of.  My Proheat has no return, but the generator does.  Less than one quart of red diesel likely isn't detectable now after burning 525 gallons of fuel since then.  I forgot all about the red dye when I bought my one gallon of off road diesel.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2012, 03:46:19 PM »

So, in an RV, how would one get caught with red dye Diesel in their tank?

Not saying this actually happened but here's a possible scenario:

Suppose you're a naive Canuck who comes from a jurisdiction where the only way you can get dyed diesel fuel is by filling out a permit app, getting a magic number from the gummit, providing that number to your fuel dealer and then getting a special code for the pump so that it will dispense dyed fuel.  Now suppose you happen to be in, oh I don't know, let's say Helena, Montana planning to visit Skip and you stop at the fuel pumps on the east side of town to fill up the bus.  You put in your card, stick the nozzle in the tank, wash the windshield, screw around a bit and then the pump kicks out at $75.  You say %^&*, restart the pump and then maybe you're standing there idly reading a little scrap of paper taped to the pump which says "this pump dispenses dyed diesel fuel for offroad use only"

That's one possible way you could get dyed diesel fuel in your bus.  And not saying it happened, but if it did and if you were in Airdrie, Alberta about a month later working on your ProHeat you'd still be able to see the red in the fuel.

Just saying.

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