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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2006, 05:52:38 AM »

I have no idea as to whether or not they are being built, however I do post one question. Every marine and industrial application motor I have seen has the blower on the pass side of the motor. Are bus blocks the only ones with a drivers side blower?

No but bus engines are installed "backards which reverses the apparance of the motor ! I believe if'd put 'm side by side on stands they'd be the same (I think! ) BK  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2006, 08:59:30 AM »

I don't recall the actual date now that I checked this on the DD website, but it was after 2001.....at that time they were still making (selling) new  stroke 8v71  Military engines.
 They had no mention of Marine or other applications Likely due to emissions.......Military don't give a crap about emissions

Currently the website mentions nothing but MB and the series 60.

Note: When I saw the 71 info the website listed the Series 40 and 50 as well as the 92 series

I would make a good guess that DD will not sell you a crate 2 stroke.......they likely sold all those to engine suppliers for the Industrial and marine industries.

I just spoke with my Cra Fishing buddy,  He can still order factory new ( not rebuit) replacements for his 6-71 turbo powerplant.  Not from DD but from any number of marine engine suppliers

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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2006, 09:25:32 AM »

New Surpls 6-71ta Highway

http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/index.cfm
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2006, 10:40:06 AM »

The TD-20 was an International crawler with a 6 cylinder International diesel. Perhaps you're thinking of the TC-12 built by Euclid division of GM, first built in the early 50's. Two 6-71's, each driving one track through an Allison transmission.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2006, 12:37:01 PM »

Dallas: Here is a quote from an Allis Chalmers site: <The HD20 features a long forgotten Detroit Diesel engine called the 6-110. In keeping with Detroit Diesel convention the first number represents the number of cylinders and the second number represents the cubic inch displacement per cylinder. >

This realy has nothing to do with the question but anybody around the oilpatch in the 50.s must have seen the "1 0ver 2" DD power plant. A left and right 6-71 side by side with another sitting on top. These three were coupled to a unit called a Hydramat which was a torque converter which used water as the fluid coupling. DD were common in the oilfield until the price of fuel started to go up and then Cat took over.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2006, 01:25:17 PM »

I've seen just about any configuration you could imagine from the 2 strokers.  With 6-71- in boats, the left and right engines are mirrored for center of boat checking and maintenence; 2 and 4 engines working through a bull gear (each engine had a clutch for disconnect to shut down to do maintenence as the other engines were running); 12V-71 generator on an oil rig standing upright with the bottom of the generator with a water cooled thrust bearing to support the weight; Lay down under both a Gillig and Crown bus; Lay down in boats.  Probably the versitile engine ever made.
Detroit officially stopped building the 2 strokers at the end of 1998.  They are still making enough of the engines for military uses where the vehicle was designed around the engine and no other engine would work.  The engines I know they are still making are the 6V-53TA; 8V-71TA; 12V-71TA; 8V-92TA-but not for public since these engines do not meet present day smog laws.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2006, 02:13:08 PM »

6-110..............these were used in Budd RDC Cars ( Railroad)

The RDC Rail Diesel Car are double ended passenger units that have a 6-110 driving each truck through a transmission, either engine can run the unit.

the 110 has a very similar sound to the 6-71

There are a numbe rof these units still in opperation around the country
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2006, 09:15:28 PM »

Anybody notice that roadrunnertex has not been heard from?

From the way this string has wandered I don't blame him!!
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2006, 05:51:27 AM »

Roadrunner's question was answered before the thread wandered off. He has a choice of a dozen different answers, everyone the absolute correct info that came from a second cousin's good friend who is a mechanic with many years of experience fixing Toyotas.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2006, 05:59:39 AM »

 Huh
I still trying to understand & digest all the information that has been posted.
Lot's of neat information.
JLV
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2006, 08:08:12 AM »

Dallas,
For a photo of a TC-12, owned by a man who treats his tractor like we do buses, go to http://discuss.ibdozing.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi then Euclid/Terrex and click on the TC-12 Working thread.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2006, 02:40:33 PM »

JLV,

Notice that even though it is your string you are being ignored?? Funny!
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2006, 03:12:01 PM »

Sorry John, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. I was under the asumption that your question had been answered.

I have taken the liberty of deleting all of my posts on this thread that did not pertain to your question.

I apologize.

Dallas
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2006, 06:23:58 PM »

Dallas,
I wish that you would not have deleted your post as there was some good information in them.
Us folks with these L/H rotation Detroits need all the ideas and information we can find.
Thanks for you input.
JLV Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2006, 06:35:34 PM »

John, If you need any information that I can supply, I'll be glad to send it too you.

After all, Turnabout is fairplay! You've been a big help to me!

Dallas
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