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Jnbroadbent
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« on: January 24, 2013, 04:56:31 PM » |
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Got two 4x8 sheets of 16ga aluminum, I was looking to find the same sized rivets as the stock ones. Anyone have a clue? Thanks.
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Jon
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Tikvah
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 05:22:15 PM » |
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Steel rivets or aluminum?
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buswarrior
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 08:37:15 PM » |
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Who is the regular advertiser in the magazine that sells every kind of rivet?
Mag is remote to my location currently.
happy coaching!
buswarrior
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Jnbroadbent
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 08:46:50 PM » |
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Steel rivets or aluminum?
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Aluminum |
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Jon
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ol713
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 08:50:38 PM » |
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Hi;
Try Byler rivet @ 800/325-3147.
They are in Irving, Texas and advertise
regularly in BCM. They should have any
thing you want in rivits and tools to
install them.
Gook luck, Merle.
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Sam 4106
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 04:36:37 AM » |
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You could also try FSI (Fastener Systems International) 800-344- 2393, another advertiser in Bus Conversions Magazine. I had good luck with them.
Good luck, Sam
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Tikvah
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 02:00:45 PM » |
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Aluminum
This question of steel or aluminum has haunted me since I did my side panels. Aluminum rivets will not be compatible in the steel subframe. Steel rivets will not be compatible with the aluminum panels. Byler Rivet sent me Steel  |
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I couldn't repair my brakes, so I made my horn louder.
1989 MCI-102 A3
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Tons of stuff to learn!
Started in Cheboygan, Michigan (near the Mackinaw Bridge). Now home is anywhere we park
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Jnbroadbent
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 02:38:49 PM » |
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This question of steel or aluminum has haunted me since I did my side panels. Aluminum rivets will not be compatible in the steel subframe. Steel rivets will not be compatible with the aluminum panels. Byler Rivet sent me Steel I am a bit curious now, I know the interior panels rivets are aluminium but I don't remember abou the exterior. When I'm home I'll pop one out and check. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 02:49:34 PM » |
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with aluminium and steel, aluminium corrodes preferentially. Steel rivet will corrode the aluminium skin, aluminium rivets will kind of loosen up in the steel structure. It can take a really long time - I have a 32 year old race car in my shop with aluminium tub riveted to a steel subframe and it looks like new... I personally prefer aluminium rivets in stainless or mild steel. Using a really good paint or even double-sided tape between the steel and the aluminium sheet works really well.
Brian
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Jnbroadbent
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 08:35:48 AM » |
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Yup, positive they are aluminium solid buck rivets.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 07:07:25 PM » |
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I rivetted aluminum to steel frame and as Brian suggested I used the sticky mastic that comes in a roll. I am assuming you are going to use pop rivets. IF this is on a upper wall (house or living enclosed area) I would recommend the closed rivets. Some places refer to these as blind rivets. One day when I was working on the outside I had to go inside to get a tool. While walking past the sheet I had just rivetted I could see daylight though the center of a rivet. I think what happens is when the pop rivet breaks it is with such force that the head of the rivet flys back and goes right out the back end. I was able to go over each rivet from the inside with a silcone gun . But after this i switched to closed rivets. It is amasing how much water can get though a small hole. Don't want water inside living wall area. If this is on a bay door Either type should be fine. This is only my personal choice.
Larry B
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 07:15:53 AM » |
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Byler sells a closed head rivet made for repairing airstream trailers. I think maybe called bulbtite. These are not pop rivets but rather expanding back style and have to be trimmed after pulling. Look like driven rivets after trimming with the proper tool! John L
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 02:10:08 PM » |
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I have a MCI rivet board, with part numbers.......they should be available from MCI
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 08:45:58 AM » |
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without seeing them, I would bet they are 3/16 stainless
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Jnbroadbent
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 09:34:00 AM » |
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without seeing them, I would bet they are 3/16 stainless
Nope, 1/4" aluminium |
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