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Author Topic: URGENT Technomadia - Overheated and stranded in SE Montana LOCKED DOWN 4 REVIEW!  (Read 23460 times)
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« Reply #135 on: June 20, 2013, 05:32:24 AM »

The turbo looks goods setting on the horn his did also the exhaust piping was a mess so was the intake yours is neater than his but you have the same problem if anything needs done on the top 
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« Reply #136 on: June 20, 2013, 08:51:27 AM »

does anyone know where that type of turbo set up is, I would like to use it on Chris's engine if I rebuild it. It would save time and money.

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« Reply #137 on: June 20, 2013, 09:00:50 AM »

does anyone know where that type of turbo set up is, I would like to use it on Chris's engine if I rebuild it. It would save time and money.

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Don

Now that it's revealed that we're seriously considering having Don work his magic on our engine...  anyone have hauling recommendations to get our bus from Billings to Bakersfield?  We have some quotes and calls in progress right now too, but always love to tap into wisdom and experience.

 - Cherie
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« Reply #138 on: June 20, 2013, 09:22:17 AM »

I have it Don off a 4905a call me I have the turbo also you will need new pipes I got pissed and sawsalled those I  have the manifolds also
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« Reply #139 on: June 20, 2013, 10:18:26 AM »

Now that it's revealed that we're seriously considering having Don work his magic on our engine... - Cherie

Just because I cannot help my nosy self....has iState confidently condemned your current dilemma....curious readers hafta know.. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #140 on: June 20, 2013, 10:30:50 AM »

Just because I cannot help my nosy self....has iState confidently condemned your current dilemma....curious readers hafta know.. Roll Eyes


The folks at iState are great, and are being extremely helpful & supportive in all of this.. and fully know the options we are considering.  They however are used to working fairly by the book, and when we start thinking outside a straight up rebuild, they get a little ... umm..  whibbley.

Example.. they were thrown for a bit of a loop that our current block's model number is for a righty 8v71T, but setup as a lefty 8v71N. With some coaching from us, they were able to eventually start looking up parts. They have 4 competent 2-cycle guys here, but they're used to trucks and farm equipment, not necessarily vintage buses.  They haven't condemned our current dilemma, and we feel confident with their ability to rebuild the 8v71 back up for us..  but if we want anything other than that, their enthusiasm (and thus suitability for the job) starts to dwindle.

We have a strong preference for working with people who are enthused about our crazy projects and like to play.

 - Cherie
 
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« Reply #141 on: June 20, 2013, 10:37:07 AM »

The folks at iState are great, we start thinking outside a straight up rebuild, they get a little ... umm..  whibbley.

but if we want anything other than that, their enthusiasm (and thus suitability for the job) starts to dwindle.

We have a strong preference for working with people who are enthused about our crazy projects and like to play.
 - Cherie

I suspected as much, see my edit to previous post... Grin
My only heartache stems from not at least looking at the injectors, t-stats and maybe the water pump...the coach CAN be loaded out to Bakersfield with those items in a box....
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« Reply #142 on: June 20, 2013, 10:38:38 AM »

Pull the engine and cradle rent a u-haul truck drive the 1200 or so miles to his shop have him rebuild it pick it up in a couple of weeks drive the 1200 miles back install in a couple of days and be King of the Road sound easy huh
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« Reply #143 on: June 20, 2013, 10:47:44 AM »

I was about to suggest the U-Haul route but (as usual) the old guy was three jumps ahead of me.  Not sure what you have for a towed but perhaps a trailer rental would work - otherwise a cube van rental will be heaps cheaper than hauling the bus somewhere.  If Don is simply rebuilding your existing engine that should be relatively straightforward - if he's converting it to turbo that may introduce some complications when you go to stuffing it back into the bus.

There's a big rockpile between you and Bakersfield so I can't imagine that moving the bus there is going to be cheap.  There's some online freight discounters - freightquote.com is the one I'm familiar with but there are others.  If you're serious about moving it I'd get a listing up on a couple of those sites and see what comes your way.
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« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2013, 10:57:47 AM »

I am with Clifford and Bob. If it was me, and if I liked Istate, then have them pull the engine. Haul it to Don, then bring it back.
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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2013, 11:00:19 AM »

Pull the engine and cradle rent a u-haul truck drive the 1200 or so miles to his shop have him rebuild it pick it up in a couple of weeks drive the 1200 miles back install in a couple of days and be King of the Road sound easy huh

That is an option we have on the contender's list.. however looking like the costs of this is on par with just shipping the bus down to Don, and doesn't give us the advantage of living onsite and working at more leisurely pace with him as we agilely come up with the right solution.  We also have a conference in Portland in early July, so it could make sense to get the bus in transit down south, we take the MINI Cooper over to Portland, and then road trip down south to join up.

We put auctions up on uShip yesterday, and have a couple quotes already in directly from companies our wrecker service referred us to.


We could have iState do more diagnostics.. but we fear the rabbithole that could turn into.. and it really doesn't change our outcome. But of course, if Don has information he needs before seeing things himself, we'll totally hire iState be his eyes and ears.  

 - Cherie
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« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2013, 11:07:48 AM »

Has anyone actually found the problem with the engine?
It may well be cheaper to repair the engine and drive it to Dons.
It can't cost that much to pull the valve covers and airbox covers to have a look.
Even if it needed a headgasket, I think you'd still be money ahead.
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« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2013, 11:13:33 AM »

If Don is simply rebuilding your existing engine that should be relatively straightforward - if he's converting it to turbo that may introduce some complications when you go to stuffing it back into the bus.

Exactly.

We are moderately confidant that IState can do a good job with rebuilding the engine here to Detroit specs.

We aren't nearly as confident that they are up to stuffing a modified and upgraded engine that we bring to them back into the bus.  There are a lot of details and origami to work through for fitting the turbo that Don has done a dozen times before, and the guys up here will be figuring out from scratch.

That means it makes a lot of sense to get the bus to Don's - not just the engine.

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« Reply #148 on: June 20, 2013, 11:21:03 AM »

Has anyone actually found the problem with the engine?
It may well be cheaper to repair the engine and drive it to Dons.
It can't cost that much to pull the valve covers and airbox covers to have a look.
Even if it needed a headgasket, I think you'd still be money ahead.

Our thinking is that even the quickest and dirtiest possible repair up here will still be many thousands of dollars, likely lots more than it will cost to ship the bus to Don's.

And if we get a quick fix here - we still have some substantial mountains and terrain between here and there, and we'd be tempting fate risking another failure by setting off with a less than rebuilt engine. And if we don't go with the full rebuild, we won't even have a warranty to fall back on if something does go wrong.

And then once we are at Don's - we'll need to redo a bunch of the work.

We aren't in a rush - why not just get the bus there and do it right the first time?  No need to pay to do the same work and the same diagnostics twice.

  - Chris
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« Reply #149 on: June 20, 2013, 12:07:05 PM »

Huzar!!!!!! Remember to pickup the Tri Tip on the way to Don s. He loves Bar B Qued Tri tip.
Good luck on your new adventure down south.
Positive thoughts for you both.

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