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Author Topic: Bitten by the bus bug, now what...  (Read 2497 times)
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2013, 06:32:15 PM »

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WELCOME!  I was in your shoes 16 months ago.  We ended up with a 4104.  I opted for a bus with a new motor and suspension components, but needed new interior.  I was lucky  to find one that previous owners had documented well, so I got receipts for all mechanical work done from late 80's on.  DD has about 15,000 miles on it.  It's nice to have more than just somebody's word.  It had been converted in the 80's and was awful.  I gutted it (including the floor) and went from there.  I too wanted 35' and single axle.  There is way more involved than I had imagined, but this is the perfect forum to get you through.  Check out my blog if you want a little insight to the process.  Take your time choosing - it's like getting married, but without the sex.
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2013, 06:33:08 PM »

Nothing wrong with the MCI5. Dave could better give you the pros and cons. I know it can be a challenge to get a turbo and an auto in one, but there are examples out there. The bottom line with the 5 is that there are so few of them out there compared to the GM 35' buses. When 35' buses ruled, GM was in it's heyday. Also, just because a manufacture is still making buses doesn't mean they are still supporting it. No different than auto or motorcycle manufactures. When the unique NOS parts are gone, then you are swimming with everyone else.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2013, 08:38:41 PM »

Yep Barn Owl thats true, so if he wants something that everyone has hey go for it, but if you want something really unique I consider the 5.  On the MCIbustalk.com Board there are a lot of 5'sA,B,C, 9, 102 A,B,C, even a few J 4500. I am just kidding with you.  Shocked Grin Roll Eyes

The Bus has to be your decision and they all have their goods and bads which you can find out here and on all the other boards. But when you get one you know especially after this week if you have been reading that you have somewhere to go and ask questions and get answers, and that is a little piece of mind.

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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2013, 08:42:45 PM »

There are some nice 35 ft Prevost out there also the ones Mr.Fore @ ForeTravel converted in the late 70's are a nice unit they pop up for sale and there were other converters of the 35 ft Prevost also and Prevost still supports the 35 footer so don't limit yourself to MCI,GM and Eagle 

The Eagle is by far the easiest to convert it and the Prevost have no well wheels just flat floors I like the the 4106 best of any GM bus but it has it share of problems also with corrosion from 50 years and 2 million + miles of salt,rain and snow 

They have paid their dues but it is sad to see so many going to the scrap yards as now days that is where one brings the most cash
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2013, 08:49:05 PM »

Geom, if you post your location you might find that there are other people near you that would show you their brand of bus.
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2013, 08:50:30 PM »

http://nicecutrvs.blogspot.com/2007/02/beautiful-1979-prevost-35ft-conversion.html

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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2013, 08:53:37 PM »

Heck, you might even get someone to let you drive it. You notice how I said "might" Lol

Wow Dave, that's a good looking bus!
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Gary Seay (location Alaska)
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2013, 09:00:36 PM »

Thank you Dave Mr Fore converted 4 or 5 of those I saw them at the factory one time in Texas you should see the cabinets they looks like furniture and not from China
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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2013, 10:46:22 PM »

Oooh that Provost is pretty! Wish there were more pics on that site...

While we're certainly keeping our options open, at this point, I want to reduce the seemingly rapidly building analysis paralysis we're in, and narrow down our options.
I feel pretty comfortable with the GMs as there are a lot of them available and all will be 35' and as @Barn Owl posted, GM was in its heyday when 35' was the standard.

The 35' size is pretty firm for us. We want easier accessibility to more campgrounds and the (understandably limited) ability to take it more places.
In looking around, most of the Provosts and MCIs available are at 40'+. While definitely tempting, they're out of the running.
If anyone has a line on a good 35' one currently for sale, however, we'd gladly consider it.

@Gordie, nice blog on your 4104! Looks like a fun project. I'd love to do a complete conversion, but I've resigned myself to the fact that I have at best remedial carpentry skills and I think it would end up being a multi-year project and we're wanting to hit the road by next spring Smiley

@Cherie, good advice on seeing as many buses as possible. The buses we're looking at are all over the country so with limited time and $$$ we'll need to be very selective on the candidates. But I agree looking at a bunch of them is really the best way to get a clear picture of the landscape.

We would love to attend a rally or other gathering event. The timing doesn't seem good for any that are around us here.

We are in the Kansas City area and would love to know of other busnuts that are close.

I would love to see as many of these babies (regardless of make or model) as possible before pulling the trigger and we'd be willing to drive a days drive or so to check some out! Smiley

Thanks all again for the good info, helping considerably!
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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2013, 10:56:28 PM »

http://alaskaslist.com/1/posts/10_Transportation/127_Motorhomes/299412_1972_GM_Tour_Bus.html

I'm not sure if Alaska is out of the picture for you? But the link I posted is a really nice GM shell and comes with lots of extra parts. I believe all the information to be true and I would drive it any ware. The price is right at 5k too.
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2013, 06:27:42 AM »

The Eagles have a rally Aug 15-17 at Lake Afton in Goddard Ks drop in take a peep at some beautiful buses and I am sure Lee will be there in a model 15-35 ft 
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2013, 04:08:27 PM »

Clifford didn't know Prevost made a 35. Wow wish I new that 3 years ago. day Late and dollar short again.
I just found that one on internet after you talked about it as luck will have it. That is a beautiful 35.

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2013, 04:54:10 PM »

Welcome: This fall in Nashville area there is a get together. A first name would be nice to address you by. I might have missed it.  Did not have any problem getting in most places with a 40ft coach.  Now have a 45ft but was surprised to find out the model I have (xle) has same turning radius as my last 40 ft Xl--- so if that was a consideration you might check that point out.  In the final end the bus you choose is the one that makes you feel rite! Everyone is different--That  is what is great about our community!  Best wishes ..Bob
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« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2013, 05:12:16 PM »

Call your local EMS (911) service, have them give you Epi 1:1000 IM!  Then follow that up with 50 mg Benadryl PO. That should take care of the itch and bus reaction!  Save yourself from the madness!

Once you show the signs and symptoms you are a carrier for life!!!!! Grin

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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2013, 05:47:26 PM »

I have to laugh along with the rest of the posters here, for me, I went with the MC7 for over 20 years, loved every part of it, but after the stroke, things started slowing. Eventually to the point where I am no longer able to crawl around/under and do all the normal things that are normal with a bus, so I made a big mistake, bought a Winneabago, View, Loved the Mercedes part, but the Winny part was not good after the MC7, neede more space, so I traded the View on the Foretravel 2001, 36' U320, it was nearly new, that was about 6 years ago, I have spent no money on repairs, only routine serviceing, upgrades, such as new TV's, electric blinds, full body paint job, ceramic floor, new LED lights everywhere, new style tail gate,(made easy for this old man), etc, etc..
The beauty is it is modern, modern running gear, electronic Cummins ISM500 Allison 4000R (Retarder), disk brakes, 10kw Power Tech Diesel genset, all great stuff.  Easy to use as the pickup that I tow behind it.
Just a thought.. Price 6 years ago $200K then add the upgrades
Total happy.
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