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« on: August 30, 2013, 03:00:07 PM »

Sitting at TJ Propane in Weston Ohio on our way to Cleveland with a flat tire -

Called coach net and someone is on their way. All we really needed was a jack.  I was so close to buying one at NAPA two days ago but figured I'd wait and get it cheaper somewhere else.

Fortunately we just came from Martin Diesel and had our generator completely serviced.  So we have the genny running the 2 new roof airs and we are sitting comfortably in the 90 degree sunshine.


Just a heads up for those following along on our adventure.  It usually takes a few days to hit the website and Bus Nuts get the news fresh off the press!

As far as Coach-Net -  They had good service, answered quickly, asked all the right questions.  Told us it would be about an hour unless it was less then 20 minutes or more than an hour in which they would call us back.

As soon as Coach Net had a service person confirmed they called us right back and told us 90 minutes as they were 60 miles away.

They just pulled up....gotta go!


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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 03:18:57 PM »

I'm thinking that after you watch a pro tire man waltz thru that you'll probably not want to buy that jack.... Grin
Roadside service is money well spent.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 03:43:07 PM »

I'm thinking that after you watch a pro tire man waltz thru that you'll probably not want to buy that jack.... Grin
Roadside service is money well spent.

Definitely -  less than an hour and we are back on the road.

SOME TIPS FOR ANYONE NEW TO THIS -
Next time you air your tires - don't forget to check the spare!

This guy was all pro - Great Service

JOHNS TRUCK & REPAIR
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They run 24/7 and service anywhere within a few hundred miles of Defiance and Bryan Ohio.

Thanks Coach-Net!

-Sean
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 04:25:40 PM »

Watchout, Coachnet will not service a coach over 40 years old.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 04:39:06 PM »

Good to hear you had a good experience with your road side assist.

These posts help folks when they are deciding on an insurer.

For the second time in 17 plus years, I used my Good Sam a few months ago. This time it was one of my pickups that lost the fuel filter.
I did not have time to deal with it and just called the dealer (Chevy). They did not have a tow truck nor a courtesy vehicle!
I called the Jeep dealer (same owner) and they sent a courtesy van immediately to get me to my destination, then picked me up and transported me to a rental car at the airport. They went and towed my truck immediately after I hung up and had the diagnosis when my appointment was over.

I did not call Good Sam until a few days later. They sent me a claim form which I got around to filling out two months later because I was in California. They paid the entire claim with no hassles.

These two experiences are the basis of my recommendations when asked.

I get Motorhome and FMCA Magazines and am appalled at the stories I read about roadside assist programs that deny claims. Most of them seem to pay after the national magazines get involved.

There are reasons why we stay with good Companies all of our lives!

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 04:56:59 PM »

Watchout, Coachnet will not service a coach over 40 years old.

This has been brought up many times and the answer it it does not apply to the RV the assistance plan is purchased for.  It does apply to other cars and trucks owned by the purchaser that are over 40 years old.

This could have changed in the past year or two.  I tried to contact Coach-Net customer service to ask, but they are closed for the day already.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 05:03:31 PM »

I never heard that before Coach-Net had no problems towing a 53 year old coach to me to work on more than once it's only been a couple of months ago they set a low boy after Chris's GM in Montana that bus is a lot older than 40 years

 I did expect some changes when Jerry sold Coach-Net but so far nothing has changed expect the price on some programs we have had it since the late 80's never been a problem but neither was AAA RV Plus for us 
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 09:34:21 PM »

Sitting at TJ Propane in Weston Ohio on our way to Cleveland with a flat tire

Sean -

And you were thinking about removing the spare tire as a means of reducing the weight on the front axle?

Me thinks you're rethinking that now, eh?

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2013, 12:48:10 AM »

Sean - I gather Paul took good care of you?
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2013, 01:00:22 PM »

Sean -

And you were thinking about removing the spare tire as a means of reducing the weight on the front axle?

Me thinks you're rethinking that now, eh?

FWIW & HTH. . .

 Wink

Seriously -  that is a crazy idea!  Did I actually say that?  Hush my mouth.


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Sean - I gather Paul took good care of you?


Yes!  Very personable but he is all business.  He knows his generators well.  Paul did a great job and hopefully other than changing oil and filters, I won't have any issues for a few years to come

-Sean

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2013, 03:42:29 PM »

If you have an old bus you better check with Coach Net.   I had two members in Great Lakes Converted Coaches tell me two weeks ago that they no longer serve old coaches and FMCA no longer uses them.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2013, 04:30:25 PM »

What is old Sean's Eagle is 30 years old ,Coach Net opted out of FMCA not FMCA from Coach-Net, The FMCA wanted Coach-Net exclusive for their members at a discount with a FMCA paid member ship Jerry didn't let that happen and it PO FMCA  

Coach-Net is just another good program that has parted ways with the greedy FMCA over the years  Coach-Net offers more with their membership that FMCA does now with more benefits coming like with the GCR tire shops where you will have a choice of tires not only the overpriced Michelins offered by FMCA 
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 05:47:28 PM »

Jerry didn't let that happen

Who is Jerry?
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 06:18:12 PM »

It's Jerry Aldridge of Lake Havasu he is a contractor which owns Landen Corp he formed Coach-Net in 1987 he sold Coach-Net to some national auto club a few years back but is on their board nice guy I have known him for 15 + years

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 04:22:34 PM »

So they will still insure my 52 year old coach?
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2013, 04:32:39 PM »

Red Ryder has Coach-Net on 53 GM year coach
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2013, 06:37:50 AM »

Hi Sean,

Just curios what was the cause of the flat?
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2013, 09:44:33 AM »

Hi Sean,

Just curios what was the cause of the flat?

Was a puncture in the front right (passenger) tire.  Which kills me cause there is like 2" of rubber on it Smiley

I am going to plug it and it will be the new spare.

We are grateful it didn't blow out and was a slow leak. 

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2013, 03:26:48 PM »

Was a puncture in the front right (passenger) tire.  Which kills me cause there is like 2" of rubber on it Smiley

I am going to plug it and it will be the new spare.

We are grateful it didn't blow out and was a slow leak. 

-Sean

Sean please don't take this wrong.

But never ever plug or allow anyone else to plug a tire on your bus!
Take it to a reputable truck tire shop and they can properly patch it from the inside and it will last the life of the tire!

Also that said on commercial buses it is not legal to use a repaired or recapped tire on the steer axle.

That said it's yer bus do it yer way, just thought I'd throw it out there!
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2013, 04:16:45 PM »

That tire over flexed the side wall when the bus sat down on it. The likely result is a failure in the bond between the rubber & the steel cords.
I've had bus tires go flat like that & later fail with a rip in the side wall in line with where the side wall was creased.
If it were mine, I'd scrap that tire to ensure I had no more drama with it. 
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2013, 07:28:24 PM »

Sean please don't take this wrong.

But never ever plug or allow anyone else to plug a tire on your bus!
Take it to a reputable truck tire shop and they can properly patch it from the inside and it will last the life of the tire!

Also that said on commercial buses it is not legal to use a repaired or recapped tire on the steer axle.

That said it's yer bus do it yer way, just thought I'd throw it out there!
Grin  BK  Grin

BK - I'm always ears for words of wisdom.  Good to know about the plug.  The guy that changed the tire mentioned "patching" it. I stated "plug" cause I don't know any better.  But now I do!  Ill see about getting it patched.

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That tire over flexed the side wall when the bus sat down on it. The likely result is a failure in the bond between the rubber & the steel cords.
I've had bus tires go flat like that & later fail with a rip in the side wall in line with where the side wall was creased.
If it were mine, I'd scrap that tire to ensure I had no more drama with it. 

Kyle - my current spare is bald and has a slow leak.  I figured if I patched the one with more rubber and no air leak it would make a better spare. Good heads up on the sidewall though...never even thought of that. Let me know what you think.  All my tires have really good tread and I hate to spend another 500 on a new tire to make my other lightly used steer tire a spare.

Guess its the lesser of two evils.  Whichever spare I went with would only be used to get me (I hope) to the next tire place down the road if I ever had to use it.

Thanks all for the wisdom.  Very grateful.

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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2013, 07:28:25 PM »

Sean please don't take this wrong.

But never ever plug or allow anyone else to plug a tire on your bus!
Take it to a reputable truck tire shop and they can properly patch it from the inside and it will last the life of the tire!

Also that said on commercial buses it is not legal to use a repaired or recapped tire on the steer axle.

That said it's yer bus do it yer way, just thought I'd throw it out there!
Grin  BK  Grin

BK - I'm always ears for words of wisdom.  Good to know about the plug.  The guy that changed the tire mentioned "patching" it. I stated "plug" cause I don't know any better.  But now I do!  Ill see about getting it patched.

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That tire over flexed the side wall when the bus sat down on it. The likely result is a failure in the bond between the rubber & the steel cords.
I've had bus tires go flat like that & later fail with a rip in the side wall in line with where the side wall was creased.
If it were mine, I'd scrap that tire to ensure I had no more drama with it. 

Kyle - my current spare is bald and has a slow leak.  I figured if I patched the one with more rubber and no air leak it would make a better spare. Good heads up on the sidewall though...never even thought of that. Let me know what you think.  All my tires have really good tread and I hate to spend another 500 on a new tire to make my other lightly used steer tire a spare.

Guess its the lesser of two evils.  Whichever spare I went with would only be used to get me (I hope) to the next tire place down the road if I ever had to use it.

Thanks all for the wisdom.  Very grateful.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2013, 07:35:55 PM »

Sorry Sean, I've been unplugged from the world this past weekends celebrating our 4 year anniversary...is that line in the photo of your sidewall from the rim driving on it?


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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2013, 07:47:15 PM »

The slow leak is way better than the fast leak of a blow out.
The only thing I can think of that is worse than the price of a new tire today is the cost of a new tire tomorrow with the additional cost that comes from failure while on the road.
If it were me, I'd drill a big hole in the sidewall to make sure that tire was never used again. One of mine blew just a few minutes after being topped off with air. Was scary how much energy was released.

For some perspective, one trip to the ER will buy several tires. . . .

Be safe, or at least as safe as you can.  Wink
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2013, 08:22:34 PM »

Good advice Kyle.

Add to the cost of a new tire the cost of repairing siding, flooring, air lines and anything else the blowout causes.
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« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2013, 04:48:59 AM »

Sorry Sean, I've been unplugged from the world this past weekends celebrating our 4 year anniversary...is that line in the photo of your sidewall from the rim driving on it?


Scott, when it started to go flat we pulled into a dusty gravel parking lot.  That line shows where the sidewall was folded from the weight of the bus and ran along the gravel.  The line is like chalk. It looks like a tear or rip but you can wipe it off with your hands. We had the bus jacked before the bus could sit on the rim. The rim never touched the ground.

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« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2013, 08:55:17 AM »

Michelin out lines what the test procedure is for a tire that has been run low. It involves pumping the tire above the running pressure to see if there are any weak spots.

I believe that everyone that has a bus, truck, etc should have a system like Pressure Pro-wireless tire pressure system. This kind of failure could have been prevented with this kind of system. Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2013, 02:39:34 PM »

Hey All -  here are some pics to follow up on our flat tire-

As Kyle mentioned - when the bus sat down on the tire it damaged the inside sidewall of the tire.  The tireman told me that when you see rubber crumbs on the inside of the tire it is done.  Don't reuse it.



Here you can see the lines on the inside of the tire where the rubber wore out in 2 places -


I bought a brand new Firestone tire and put the spare back in its place.

Hopefully it will be a while before we have to use it again.


Thanks to all for the wisdom.  Be careful when buying used tires!

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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2013, 09:03:20 PM »

Hi Sean, good advice on used tire inspection, thanks, rubber crumbs! Tom, lvmci...
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