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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 08:51:36 AM »

JC,the governor is a good place to ask questions about if not sure I help people that have those all out of whack because they don't the difference  on which governor they have and cannot tell you the difference between a single weight or a double weight but yet they try and adjust one lol. 

Several of you guys here do good but some should not even touch one plus there are shops that should not even try and work on one they screw up big time IMO

It is real sad for me to see Don going in a different direction away from the 2 strokes back to the Allison but he is just tried of fighting the state of CA and the EPA costing him a lot of money

Him and I both know it is just a matter of time before they are completely ban for highway use or they will impose fees so high and limit the use it not going to be worth it  

Evan Cat with all their resources said to hell with it and walked away from a market they were a major player in,times are changing just look at your power bill Roll Eyes  
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 10:12:40 AM »

My 91 8V92TA has 61,000 miles on it with a 755Cr trans. When The time comes what would be a swap that wouldn't require cutting the back off and starting over. So far on mine no leaks and doesn't use any measurable oil. You can still see all the Silver paint with no visible oil stains.The boys at Prevost Ft. Worth said 8v92 owners didn't have any oil in them if they weren't leaking on the ground. Smart Azz's!
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 10:42:31 AM »

That why they leak Glen people seem ok with leaks I am not one of those if leaks fix it they don't have to leak they are no worse than a Cummins L10 leaking oil I can tell you lol
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 01:43:23 PM »

 So far so good with mine You would never know it was 22 years old. Yeah if it leaks you fix it for sure.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2013, 08:10:54 AM »

My engine leaks oil from the rear main seal, but I am not going to go to all the work of separating the engine and transmission just to fix a minor drip.  If it was bad I would fix it.  Bryce Gaston had an 8V92 at one point that was leaking a gallon or more every few hundred miles through the rear main.  If mine was anywhere close to that bad I would need to fix it.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2013, 03:32:06 PM »

At the risk of sounding like i'm not happy with my 92 all i want to do is find a motor that I know more about, Mine does not leak any oil or run bad, it' like if my wife asked me to fix her sewing machine I would have that deer in the head lights look. with that said after talking to a few guys that know there stuff that cat is going to be to much work to put in the Eagle but a better choice mikr be a cummins, i can put a cummins in without having to tear out my bedroom or raise the floor. So i will do some reshearch on the Cummins and see what i come up with. I'm thankful for all the comments from a great bunch of people, so glad your all out there.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2013, 03:42:59 PM »

Andy, the Cummins that will work and have power are electronic I sure would not pull a good 8v92 and replace it with a L10 and the old 855 is not going to work it is big as the 3406 the M-11 and ISM will fit with out raising the bed then you have the gearing to work around if you plan on using the 740
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2013, 03:54:44 PM »

I consider the Cummins M11/ISM to be the right size for a bus. Granted it is electronic, but find a wrecked truck (trash trucks had many including Allison trans) and use all equipment from the truck. You can rebuild a ISM up to 500hp and 1550lb/ft torque. Good luck, TomC
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2013, 05:06:26 PM »

So the M11 will work , Great will the 740 and the 3:36 gears work? on the cats i was going to have to put in a space and new flex plate, will that be the case with the M11 ?
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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2013, 05:32:39 PM »

You just buy the hub for the flex plate,Pratt uses a 740 with 3:36 gears behind his ISM, St John I believe has a 740 with 3:36 gears behind his M 11 with that setup the mileage is not going to be that great if you drive interstate speed limits
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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2013, 05:51:23 PM »

Thanks Clifford I will call bill and talk with him.
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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2013, 05:58:23 PM »

Those involved in this hobby are not so for any practical reasons.  Therefore, it would logically follow that some decisions they make are chasing something other than logic.  In this particular case, logic would say that you do not try to fix what is working perfectly.  However, the majority of those that have converted to 4-strokes have done it at added expense really just because they wanted 4-strokes.

There is nothing wrong with that choice; it is totally in line with this and many other hobbies.  Just think, some people even buy boats!
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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2013, 06:12:37 PM »

Eagle owners are always doing engine swaps we have people in the club running 650 + hp Cummins,Cat's and Series 60 for what who knows it's just their thing
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2013, 08:47:28 PM »

Andy if you come to our NRG gathering in Scottsdale in Jan. I will show and tell my ISM 450/World Trans. to you.  Plus make you a killer margarita buddy.  Come on and have fun in the sun.  Life's too short to work all the time.
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« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2013, 03:22:42 AM »

Thanks Mark, I'm thinking is not out of the realm of possibilities yet, at least for the drink ;)will see.
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