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« on: November 24, 2013, 06:00:38 AM »

Yep. You were right. Adding windows to the prison bus comes at a hefty cost. Even though they are dual pane, we are only managing to keep the coach at around 65 or so with two space heaters now that we have windows. Not even T-Day yet and we have snow and 19 degree temps (F). We used to keep it nearly 76 degrees in here with two space heaters sans windows. So now, we are considering two toe kick heaters in kitchen, one in bedroom and one in living room as well as one in the drivers area which we curtain off. This would be just to keep the shoes from freezing and melt the snow on the steps. We'd go from 3000 watts of heat (currently) to 5000 watts. Hoping that's enough. Does anyone know if the Elkhart salvage yard has cheap toe kicks? $150 for a sideways electric heater is too rich for me.



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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 06:24:01 AM »

A 1500 watt electric heater puts out about 5000 BTU/hr.  It doesn't matter if it is $20.00 cube from Walmart or a $500.00 "Amish Fireplace".
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 06:52:29 AM »

About all you find in toe kicks for the rv's are the 750 w Cadets I bought one from Dick Wright it was a waste of 175 bucks IMO but they look good installed Roll Eyes

You probably don't like propane but the RV forced air furnaces do a good job at a reasonable cost once the inside is warm the cube heaters should keep it warm without the furnace running much the best remedy is move to AZ  
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 07:10:03 AM »

What Clifford said.  If you want to keep it warm when its even moderately cold outside you're going to have to burn some diesel fuel or some propane.  Electric won't cut it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 07:28:46 AM »

Small milkhouse heater in  the water bay, oil filled raidiater lookin heater in the kitchen ,Lasko heater in front and bathroom,toekick in entry, been good at 15-20 below,just hopin the power dont go out,couse my generater dont start that cold.the 1500 watt deals right its what you get at any price.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 07:48:00 AM »

I would at least foam board or bubble foil the windshields...and bubble foil the windows at night...
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2013, 07:52:58 AM »

You can do a cheap heating system off your hot water heater using a March pump,a old car heater core,muffin fan and a wall thermostat the road gypsies (full timers) do it all the time it works pretty darn good the ones I have saw   
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2013, 07:55:35 AM »

Hey Clifford, what's a March pump?

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2013, 08:34:04 AM »

We have two 1500 watt Cadet toe kick heaters and they heat like crazy.  I would be real concerned about running them full time though.  We are a little paranoid about them running if we aren't there or after we are in bed.

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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2013, 09:21:22 AM »

Aware that 1500 watts is 1500 watts. Never believed the silliness of Amish heaters. Anyway, we are wired 120 so lowes toe kicks would suffice. Cliff, we are considering propane just like you said, to get things warm and help on the colder nights. We use plastic storm window film shrink on the front glass instead of bubble foil. Still like the view. I've thought about the whole hot water heater heater thingies. We have  30 gallon heater so that's an idea too. I just kicked on our electric toaster oven and between that and the two space heaters it's 79 now. Smiley we also have a cube heater set to low in the water bay. Heated and insulated water hose too. Not our first rodeo for winter full timing but the windows changed things for sure. Wish we could be in AZ but my job requires travel. Wife is staining remaining kitchen cupboards and we are listening to Christmas music while I prep for three big Christmas events


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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2013, 09:24:41 AM »

To hell with heat for a minute did she do the canning on the top shelf that looks good and tasty  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 09:54:14 AM »

Scott one thing we did while living in the Eagle was to buy hard back insulation from lowes and fill the space between the ground and the bottom of the Bus as well as the wheel wells I also bought a bag of house insulation and put it under the steps and under the floor in the drivers area. I put  a small heater in the water closet on low.and one in the bay with inverter.
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2013, 10:09:59 AM »

We liived like this for the whole winter in Billings with Temps well below zero (like -20 ) we were nice and warm but suffered from cabin fever more than anything Good luck been there done that  Grin


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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2013, 12:36:55 PM »

I see you had a satelite dish, but I don't see the ladder on the side of the bus to brush the snow off the dish!

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2013, 01:56:32 PM »

1500 watts = 3450btu. You can get cheap space heaters for less then $30. Just make sure they have a tip over switch-which I believe they have to have by law now. Good Luck, TomC
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